I was referring to the second pic (grain 1 portrait), although I like  
them both. But the highlights appear somewhat burned out in the second.
Paul
On Feb 27, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Thanks, Paul, but which photo do you mean?  The 1st one (eye crop)  
> or the
> second one (grain 1 portrait).  Cheers, Christine
>
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>> I don't know about applying grain, but I like this shot a lot. And I
>> would go back to RAW and pull down the highlights. You're getting
>> some burn out in the brighter parts of the face. You can do that
>> without deepening the shadows a lot if you work the conversion.
>> Paul
>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 12:38 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone:
>>>
>>> I've been fooling around with applying grain, but I really don't
>>> know what
>>> I'm doing.  I don't have any guiding principles to fall back on.  I
>>> just
>>> sort of click, add noise, & adjust amounts, but I don't feel
>>> thoughtful
>>> about my attempts.
>>>
>>> This is an Eye Crop.  I kind of like it, but I feel like I got to
>>> this point
>>> accidently.
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6991527&size=lg
>>>
>>>
>>> This is an informal portrait (BTW, When I open this photo up in
>>> Photoshop
>>> Elements 5, it looks a lot more grainer.).
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6991553
>>>
>>> I suspect working with PSE5 also presents some limitations as
>>> opposed to
>>> working in the full Photoshop program.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'd be grateful for just a tip or two.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Christine
>>>
>>>
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