Thanks, Bill.  As always you are a wealth of knowledge.

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on 11/27/01 3:31 PM, William Robb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Delano Mireles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:06 PM
> Subject: question on damaged negs
> 
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've recently run into some problems with negatives I've
> received back from
>> the local minilabs.  There seem to be some scratches on the
> negatives that
>> I've received back after developments and prints.  It is a bit
> weird because
>> the prints do not show any lines/scratches.  This has happened
> twice and I'm
>> concerned whether it be my camera who is the culprit - maybe
> scratching the
>> film as it feeds through or the minilab.
>> 
>> Is there a way to tell whether the lines/scratches are a
> result of the
>> minilab or camera?  I really feel that it is the minilab
> because of the
>> prints and the fact that I developed a roll in between  taking
> rolls to two
>> different labs and there are no scratches on that roll.  Yet,
> it seems odd
>> that I would run into the same problem between 2 different
> labs.
>> 
>> How do these minilab processing machines work?  Do the
> employees roll the
>> film on reels and process or does the machine simply take the
> film and auto
>> roll?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help y'all can provide
> 
> Generally, minilabs run the film one roll at a time by taping
> the film to a leader card which pulls the film through the
> machine. Depending on the processor and the amount of maintenace
> it recieves, these machines can do a lot of damage.
> It is also possible to scratch the film during printing or
> sleeving.
> A good way to see if it is the machine or the camera is to look
> to see where the scratch ends. If it ends at the last frame
> exposed, it is most likely camera induced. If it goes right to
> the end of the film, it is likely the lab. If the scratch comes
> and goes, likely it is the film processor.
> A good way to pin down the lab on a scratch is to sacrifice a
> roll of film, and run it through the camera, then pull the film
> entirely out of the cassette and check for scratches. If the
> film is unscratched, run it through the film processor and check
> again for scratches. If the film still shows no scratches, run
> it through the printer and check again. Finally run it through
> the sleever.
> 
> <unrelated to the topic>
> From a lab operators perspective, film scratches are,
> unfortunately, directly related to how demanding the
> photographer is. The more demanding the photographer, the more
> redo prints we make. The more times the film is run through the
> machinery, the more chance there is of scratching it. I think it
> is better to take a slightly substandard machine print to avoid
> scratched negs than to insist that every speck of dust be gone
> and that the shadow side of Aunt Jemmy isn't slightly magenta.
> The nature of minilabs is such that it is difficult to provide
> perfect prints first time. The nature of negatives is that they
> will scratch in direct proportion to their value.
> </unrelated to the topic>
> William Robb
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