Forgive me, Oh Great Godfrey, for presuming to know anything without your
assent.

Git

Anthony Farr
(not born yesterday)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 3:23 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Leica M8 Field Test
> 
> Ok then. Have it your way, believe whatever it is you want to
> believe, whether right or wrong. Carry on bitching about something
> you know little about, that few if any of you have even touched never
> mind experienced for yourself.
> 
> I'm done with this thread. Another grand waste of time.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> PS: Tina Manley took her M8 to India recently and brought back
> delightful photos made with it. She's brought it to South America,
> Central America, and other places as well. She also has a Canon DSLR
> kit (5D, I think) and finds the M8 produces better photographs.
>    http://www.tinamanley.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 12, 2008, at 7:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > A lot of the pro photographers I know own a Leica M8. Very few use it.
> > Paul
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> No argument from me about those points, William.  The Leica seems
> >> ill-conceived for its traditional purpose.  As others have said,
> >> the new
> >> purpose of a Leica is as bling, or investment on the collectors
> >> market.  A
> >> camera's prestige value should flow downwards from the pointy end of
> >> professional usage, but Leica apparently seeks to redefine
> >> prestige as
> >> flowing upwards from the lowest common denominator of "how much
> >> cash can we
> >> screw out of our wealthy clientele who don't know shit from clay".
> >>
> >> When Godfrey points out that many pro-photographers are
> >> successfully using
> >> M8s, I am reminded that many pro-photographers could produce art
> >> from a
> >> Diana.  That's no great defense for the Leica, it's praise for those
> >> photographers.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Anthony Farr
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >>> Behalf Of
> >>> William Robb
> >>> Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 11:29 AM
> >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >>> Subject: Re: [OT] Leica M8 Field Test
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Anthony Farr"
> >>> Subject: RE: [OT] Leica M8 Field Test
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I'm not talking about you of course, Mark, because I don't
> >>>> recall you
> >> ever
> >>>> bitching and moaning about the onerous burden of using a modern
> >>>> camera.
> >>>
> >>> The guy isn't bitching about using a modern camera, he is
> >>> bitching that
> >> his modern
> >>> Leica is
> >>> fundamentally useless in any of the parameters that a
> >>> photographer uses to
> >>> determine usability,
> >>> and doesn't perform as well as cameras five or more years old.
> >>> The camera needs to be disassembled to check if there is a memory
> >>> card in
> >> it.
> >>> Neither auto nor maual white balance seems reliable for giving
> >>> consistent
> >> white
> >>> balance.
> >>> The camera is useless to him (and honestly to most anyone else)
> >>> because
> >> the
> >>> images at ISO's
> >>> above 640 were too noisy.
> >>> Auto exposure was unreliable.
> >>> Furthermore, an *istD outperforms it's buffer size and write speeds.
> >>>
> >>> In November 2006, I wrote about the M8
> >>> "They (Leica) just bought themselves a coffin and a gun.
> >>> Bye-Bye Leica.
> >>>
> >>> It appears that in a year and a half, they haven't corrected any
> >>> of the
> >> problems with
> >>> the
> >>> camera. That is absolutely unacceptable for a 10K piece of
> >>> equipment.
> >>>
> >>> William Robb
> >>>
> 
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