John,
I think you're right.
Too many people taking too many images now.
I think we will see fewer, better images down the line.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:40 AM, John Poirier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Bob
>
> I rarely use shooting lists, not for my current type of work.  I've noted
> that it's something stock photographers do regularly, though.
>
> What got me out of my lurker's cave was your comment about "looking through
> the Magnum web site for inspiration and ideas".  Looking at good work makes
> a lot of sense, of course, for improving your skills any sort of
> photography.  I do it all the time.
>
> It did remind me of something that has bemused me of late.  This is the
> question of visual plagiarism.
>
> I have a very good visual memory.  I've looked at several exhibits at a
> local gallery recently that contained significant numbers of prints for
> which my first reaction was that I had seen the image before.  In some cases
> I was even able to remember whos idea was being used.  Cartier Bresson and
> Arnold Newman came to mind.
>
> Over the last ten years I've increasingly had a sense of "sameness" about
> images in mainstream photo publications. I find them quite repetitive,
> essentially reworkings of previously published material. I also find it
> increasingly difficult to distinguish editorial photos from the images used
> to promote equipment, which are generally visually arresting but not
> necessarily profound.
>
> BTW, my use of the term "visual plagiarism" refers to rather obvious
> reworking of others' ideas rather than direct copying.
>
> Is genuine originality disappearing from the photographic mainstream?
>
> What are the groups thoughts on this?
>
> Cheers
>
> John Poirier
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>> Bob W
>> Sent: June 12, 2008 1:49 PM
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>> Subject: Shooting plan
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've booked a week's holiday in Fez for Sept/Oct, just at the end of
>> Ramadan and in time for Eid al-Fitr. I had hoped to go for longer, and
>> to get there on the train, but I can't spare more than a week so I'm
>> flying there (I've paid extra to offset the CO2!).
>>
>> Anyway, I'm starting to make notes about what I'd like to photograph
>> while I'm there, and I wondered if other people do the same, or am I
>> just some sad no-life?
>>
>> When you go on a photo trip do you just wander around and leave the
>> photos to the will of Allah, or do you deliberately put yourself into
>> likely-looking situations?
>>
>> I normally put together a loose list of the type of shot I'd like, and
>> the places to go where I think it's likely, but I make sure I can
>> extemporise. So I don't usually get exactly what I wanted, but I do
>> tend to get good stuff. For instance, in Romania I wanted funerals,
>> and gypsy music. In the town where I expected to get good shots of
>> funerals, I got nothing. But in the village where I expected gypsy
>> music, I got a great funeral.
>>
>> At the moment I'm looking through the Magnum website for inspiration
>> and ideas. I have been to Morocco a few times before, although not to
>> Fez, so I know it's difficult to photograph there, probably more so
>> during Ramadan, but I'm quite excited about it.
>>
>> Bob
>
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