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LeviL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello
> I just signed up to the list and I find something useful right
away.

Hi L! (what's your name, BTW?)
Welcome to the list.
I'm sorry for my late reply, but I took the time to make some
side by side comparison between bodies and screens. I feel I
made a hurried statement, so I have to clear myself... :-)

> I
> was just about to buy 2 LX screens for the new improved kind. 
I was about
> to have my MX recaibrated.  Looking at
> 
> http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/screens/index.html
> 
> a site I am sure you are familiar with I was thinking about
geting the
> SC69 and the SE60 and maybe the SE25 (or one of the other over
300mm kind
> to use with the mirror lens I am about to buy)  These are
exactly what you
> advised against.  So you say I should just stick to the MX
screens because
> they are better then these super bright ones and they are
better for
> super-telephoto aplications over the LX screens especially
designed for
> these purposes?

No.
Let's make a step back. I wrote I wouldn't mount a SG-60 or one
of the new LX screen due to a bad vignetting in the finder. This
is true, but it's effective with a normal or short lens and, I
admit I had no time to explain better, if you wear glasses (so
do I...). The problem is due to the kind of eyepiece and
magnification of the MX too: the LX has a longer eyepoint, so I
can see the entire frame. I can't do that with the MX. I have to
move slightly the eye to have a complete view. With one of the
new screens (as I said, I tried first with the SG-60) and the
50/1.7 I could barely see the center of the frame...

> You talk about vignetting.  I assume this is just vignetting
of the
> viewfinder, not the pictures since the screen had nothing to
do with the
> exposure.  Please confirm this.  So if I am getting this right
you say the
> "super great new bright" LX screens are darker in the MX then
the MX
> sceens?
> 

I can confirm for sure about the vignetting, but I had no
intention to state something as a rule.

> Gianfranco, please elaborate on your experiences.  I also
would be qurious
> to see what you recommend.  My MX screen is all scratched up. 
I use an LX
> screen for Astro, but lightmetering is not an issue there
so...  There is
> no Pentax made clear screen for MX, which I would really like,
I would
> also like to be able to use a super-tele mirror with high
accuracy.

Well...
Few hours ago I started to try every possible screen/lens
coupling.
I mounted in the MX the following screens: SE-25, SC-26, SE-60.
Since you want to do astrophotography I used the 300/4, alone
and with a 2x converter (I could have used a true 600/8 and
attach to it different converters - maybe I'll do in the
following days), and tried some shorter lens anyway, just to
have a reference.

The SE-25 is not a great screen, I don't like it even with the
LX... The vignetting is visible, but significantly less than
with a normal lens mounted (to be precise: the SE-25 vignettes
with lenses shorter than 80mm even with the LX).
If you do not wear glasses, maybe the vignetting won't bother
you too much.

The SC-26 is one of my favorite screens. It allows you to focus
a 300/4 almost like a 50/1.4 used with the standard SC-21. Used
on the MX the vignetting is not that bad (I think it is mostly
due to the glasses in this case). At 600/8 you can still use the
focusing aids, although the microprisms start to be hard to
focus.

When I mounted the SE-60 I must admit I couldn't believe to my
eyes. This is the less vignetting-prone screen of these three
(I'm still talking of tele lenses, of course - I had no time to
try a macro set-up).
Used at 600/8 you can easily focus objects at infinity and
closer, but, most important, I couldn't see any kind of
vignetting in the finder (things are different if you use this
screen with, say, a 20/4: you will hardly see the subject even
at the center of the frame; with the LX this shouldn't happen -
I didn't try, though).

I think these are good news for you.
If you are able to buy a SE-60 screen you should go for it in a
hurry. Unfortunately, I cannot comment on the screens
specifically designed for astrophotography like the SD-11.
What f stop is the lens you use for your astrophotography? This
should be the parameter to consider.

Hope this is clear enough...

Gianfranco
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