Dave, I don't think the pictures or the web site are a problem. Both are good enough, and as good as others I've seen. You're clients just have very low price expectations. It's not encouraging... Regards, Bob S.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:36 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, i am taking the same type of photos as the competition, except > most of the onsite companies shot a hell of a lot more of each rider. > Having said that, they stil only get 3-4 out of , say 50 shots of the > rider actually doing the jump or test or what have you. > > There clients think they are getting a bargin at $75 for a show CD. > Look at all my photos i get. Yes but why would you want 20 of your > back end going over a jump. > > Difficult to explain. > > I was one of two people 7 years ago, doing on site digital work. Even > then, sales were not great, but i did make a bit of a profit each > time. > > I talked to another shooter this weekend, who has been doing this as a > pro, since 1988, and he has seen his profit decline drastically. He > also does a lot of "commercial" work as well, and that is keeping him > going. > > Here is his site. I don't see my shots any different or presented > differently as his, and he is a main stream shooter. > > www.shootphoto.ca > > He uses CS to make his pages, i use Breeze Browser Pro. > > I think it boils down to repation. Same riders, same jumps, same back > drops, same horses. > > I have sold to the same people for all these years, and unless i get > an outstanding shot, or they get a new horse, its same ol, same ol. > > Well, some one else can take over, spend $1600 and do a pro web > page(mine is home built, but you see that)and hopefully they do > better. > > Life goes on. > > Dave > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Maxime Thériault > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I can understand your feelings, and I reckon having far less knowledge in >> this field than you more than likely have. >> >> But.. And it's not meant to be taken in a mean way, but I've looked at your >> pictures collection and have to say that it's a far shot from the >> 'professional equestrian photogs' in the way they are both presented >> (website) and taken (The photos themselves). It's not to say that your >> pictures are bad per see, but you need to know where your competition is at >> and compete on the same level if you want an income that is above that of an >> amateur / 'mom with DSLR' level. The market, ANY specialty market, are >> awfully hard to penetrate and alas that is how that field is. >> >> That's about as far as my 'knowledge' goes, and like I said you probably >> know more than I do, and your business plan was probably taking this into >> account etc. >> >> I do wish you luck and fortune in any decision you take. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> David J Brooks >> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:17 PM >> To: Pentax Discuss >> Subject: OT Be careful were you place that decimal point >> >> Well, i have one more show to do this weekend, and it could be the last for >> me. >> >> I have sat down and had a look at my so called books, and after using >> a calculator instead of >> doing math in my head, can now see what i have made since 2004, when i >> went to web based sales only. >> >> 2004/2005, less than $300.00, each year >> 2006 $450 >> 2007 less than 1K. >> Projected for 2008, $500-700.00 >> >> Not a lot of profit for a part time gig, that is supposed to help the >> pocket book out.:-) >> >> I'm tired, I ache and i have lost interest. I',m pretty sure Liz would >> like me to call it quits also. >> I had every weekend from April to Sept tied up, and i'm sure she would >> like to do stuff other than sit around the house, and wait for me to >> come home.:-) >> Last year worked out to around $2.50 an hour. >> >> I'll ponder over the next while, but i think its time to pass the >> horse shoe on to the next eager beaver >> that has started up an equestrian photo business. >> >> Now i know why you only see photographers for a few years, then new ones. >> >> I figure sales are low due to tight money, barns with parents with >> Dslr's and give the photos away and scoping the proofs from the web. >> >> It was a good ride, if i decide to hang it up.:-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> -- >> Equine Photography >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> Ontario Canada >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
