You are right, Maris, I did say that. Now I am having second thoughts on the matter, and want to see what the list members think of it. This is not some kind of national contest, judged by flunkies where the rules are absolute. I am more interested in being fair than being right.
The question is: would the list feel the printer ratings would be more useful to them if they came only from photos by their peers, or would any print from that printer be just as useful? I have no problem with it either way, and will provide my rating of their printer to everyone who send in a print for their information regardless of the decision based on feedback to that question. It would only affect the published ratings. --graywolf ----- Original Message ----- From: Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 8:27 PM Subject: Re: The Challenge > Mike, you are correct. What follows is my exchange with Tom when I asked him whether he wants an image I took or something like a Photodisc target: > > "There is no requirements other than they show off the photo printing > capabilities of the printer. > > The whole thing started when I commented that I had never seen a print from > a consumer inkjet that was comparable to a photograph. Someone said I hadn't > seen his. My reply was, "Show me". He didn't but Aaron Reynolds said > everybody should send me a print. Thinking about that made me realize that a > photo printer rating would be a useful thing, so I upgraded the idea to what > it is now. > > The Master Digital Printer idea was added to provide some kind of deadline > That deadline just became very real because the local Pentax rep has offered > to donate a prize for the best print of all. > > You are the first to hear about the grand prize as I haven't gotten a chance > to post it to the list yet. (Major computer crash). > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #1646 > > > Are you looking for prints of something like the Photodisc target, or prints > of photos taken? > > Maris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Maris V. Lidaka, Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:16 AM > Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #1646 > > > | Whatever you think shows of your printer best. Glossy is the easiest to > | compare with photo prints, but do your own thing. > | I am attaching the challenge post FYI. It has all the info in it. > | > | --graywolf > | ------------------------------------------------- > | The optimist's cup is half full, > | The pessimist's is half empty, > | The wise man enjoys his drink. > | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:07 AM > | Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #1646 > | > | > | > I missed the beginning of this thread. > | > > | > I have the Epson C80. If you want any prints from that, tell me what > | papers to use (the only Epson glossy it works well with is Epson > | Professional Glossy) and I will send them. > | > > | > Maris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 6:32 PM > Subject: The Challenge > > > | Tom R. wrote: > | > | > I have received prints from a couple of list members that were not their > | > pictures. They in my opinion were about what you would get if you pressed the > | > button on that printer down at the computer store. Really nice, but could you > | > or I get that, not having a $100/hr PhotoShop expert to tweak our scans for > | > us? > | > | > | Wait a minute, now, the original challenge had nothing to do with what WE as > | PDMLers could do in digital, it had to do with how good digital prints can > | look--and whether or not they could be called "photo quality." It was never > | specified that it had to be a picture shot with our own equipment or even > | printer on our own printers. > | > | Or am I wrong about this? That's what I remember. > | > | I sent prints made with the Pentax Optio 330 in order to be "On Topic" on > | the list, and the Canon EOS D30 in order to show what a good digital SLR can > | do. The Optio print came from Pentax Japan's web site and the Canon print > | from an original picture posted at dpreview. I don't mind not being eligible > | for prizes, but fair's fair--the prints are digital prints through and > | through and fairly show what digital prints can look like. > | > | If you're considering traditional photographic print quality, you wouldn't > | fault me for using a good lens or a good film, would you? Or for picking a > | shot that looked good? C'mon now. > | > | --Mike > | - > | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > | > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. 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