What your saying is true in some cases, but Pentax and Nikon
would not have made their first AF cameras or first DSLR
cameras compatible with their old lenses if that was the
scheme on those cameras. NO, they made their AF cameras
and their DSLR cameras so that existing lenses could be
used on them. 

An M42 body would not be priced or put on market today or in
the future to sell
new M42 lenses, it would be put on the market to allow use the
millions of existing lenses already out there in need
of a DSLR body that supports them fully. It would have
to make money on its own, not be a free razor to sell blades.

JC O'Connell
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JC OConnell wrote:
> Huh? The whole point of a M42 DSLR is to get the convenience of the 
> M42 automatic aperture function which WAS invented over 50 years ago. 
> There is no M42 DSLR or DSLR adapter on the market that enables the 
> M42 lenses to operate fully (yet). That's my point. This M42 DSLR 
> would fill a demand that already exists, not create a new one or 
> expect buyers starting from scratch to use M42 bodies and lenses 
> althought there could be a good argument to do that too. Its nothing 
> more than a better M42 camera to use the massive quantity of M42 
> lenses ALREADY in circulation. Necessity is the mother of invention...
> 
> JC O'Connell
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My thought is that a manufacturer builds a body so that he can sell his
rather 
expensive lenses for it, not the other way around.
Sort of like a manufacturer practically gives away a printer, because
you sell 
tons of paper and ink cartridges ~ that's where the profit, your R.O.I.
is. Isn't it that way with a body? Isn't the much profit in the
interchangeable lenses? That's why the question mark. I suspect it to be
true, but don't know.

Leica comment below John's message.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of John Celio
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:35 PM
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> Subject: RE: ANY M42 DSLR rumors (yet)?
> 
> 
> Leica is an exception, but for good reason: their M system is used 
> primarily by professionals and wealthy amateurs who are more concerned

> with status symbols than convenience.  Also, if I recall correctly, 
> Leica has been on the brink of bankruptcy for ages.  They're not 
> exactly a good example of old tech turning a big profit.
> 
> John

I've an opinion on this too. (Full of 'em tonight! :-D

Does anyone believe Leica's bodies and lenses justify their obscene
prices, from 
a manufacturing and assembly cost standpoint? Is there THAT much labor
in either 
one?

Are they essentially hand made, like some outrageously expensive cars
are? Some 
of the well-known marques are essentially hand made and hand fit, with 
incredible number of man-hours in them. Is it like that way with Leica?
At least 
their renown M series rangefinders and lenses?

It seems to me they're on the perpetual brink of bankruptcy because
they're too 
bloody expensive except for those professionals (well off or otherwise)
who 
simply must have a Leica, not because they're honestly that good...
Capable and durable? So it seems, but worth the tab? That's the
question. It seems you're primarily paying for the name, as with many
products, but the 
purchase price of a Leica seems untoward, for what you're getting...

Just my opinion...not necessarily the truth. <g>

keith whaley

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