> As a photo.net user, I have to admit I was a bit startled 
> when I discovered 
> the Adorama page-turner ad when posting some pics 
> recently--and I admit to a 
> moment of impatience when I noticed it--but it didn't last 
> very long, & I 
> now know how to avoid the turning page.  

that kind of sums it up though, doesn't it. You avoid turning the page. This
means that you have to think about how & where you're moving your mouse when
you're on that page, which seriously compromises usability and enjoyment. If
I'm on the page to look at your photos I shouldn't have to be thinking about
the traps I need to avoid. 

And since we're avoiding the ads they've become self-defeating. 

This means the site host doesn't get the revenue, the advertiser doesn't get
the click-throughs, and the viewer doesn't get the full pleasure of your
site. So what's the point of the ads?

> Moreover, I'm hoping 
> to use the 
> Lightroom web page module to start posting pics.  

It's extremely easy. To use a recently-prevalent 'persuader' that is popping
up everywhere in the bullshit corporate propaganda my senior management
sends out "This is the right thing to do".

All you need is a decent web host. You put the ftp details into LR once, and
that's it. My host costs me about £25 per year. I get 100 Mb of webspace and
a zillion email addresses.

[...]
> 
> But having said all that, I was a little shocked at the suggestion of 
> avoiding PESOs & GESOs that are posted on photo.net, and 
[...]
> but is this 
> annoyance so 
> great that it justifies boycotting long-time PDML folks (who 
> use photo.net) 
> who've given so much to the list and with whom you've formed 
> online (or skin 
> & bones :-)) friendships with?
> 

Well, I haven't actually boycotted it yet. But some things are so annoying
that when I'm on a website and they crop up, I just click out. A prime
example of this was on Salon, which regularly hosted excellent galleries by
Magnum photographers. But they started having an advert which featured an
animated fly, buzzing loudly. There was no way I was able to put up with
that, however good the photos were, so I stopped visiting the site, and I
haven't been back since.

The photo.net ads are only marginally less annoying - at least they don't
come with sound. Why don't these people learn? Don't they test people's
reactions to their to their stupid, sophomoric ideas? The first lessons in
user interface design are: Don't piss off your user; don't put animations on
the screen; don't use sound unless it's easy to turn it off. 

Bob


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