DID YOU READ MY EARLIER POST? regular nimh batteries dont self discharge overnight or in days.
These batteries you like are only significantly better after a month or so and dramatically better after like 6-9 months. If you think you are getting some edge in days or weeks over "conventional" nimh batteries you are mistaken. Do you really charge your batteries and not use them for over a month or go 6-9 months before using them? I dont. I have three sets. I fully charge one set, put in camera. if and when that dies, I have two other sets fully charged ready to go at any time on a trickle charger. I dont need those kind of batteries and I doubt you do either unless you actually only have one set of battteries and like to charge them and then not use the camera for weeks or months. come on, get practical. Those feature are of very little real world value for the average photo guy. Charged in the package? Who cares, stay charged for 9 months, who cares, I use my camera every few days, not every few years. JC O'Connell [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: rechargeable batteries - any wisdom? JC OConnell wrote: > is the "out of the package" 80% charge that important > in the real world or is it a marketing scheme. > It's a side-effect of the very low self-discharge characteristic, and is not at all important to me. I agree that the "charged when new" thing is a marketing scheme, but it's quite a reasonable one because you can't sell "low self-discharge" to Joe Lunchbox or Aunt Tenna. And it would appear to be working because now Sony and Duracell are reselling Eneloops under their own name. The crucial aspects of Eneloops that make them game-changers for me are the afore-mentioned low self-discharge, and the very flat voltage over time discharge curve together with reasonable capacity. The Eneloop's 2000 mAh capacity is admittedly less than the 2700mAh cells available, but they work better in actual practice (at least in my K100D Super) because the voltage droops fairly early in the discharge cycle of a typical Energizer or even the Ansmann-badged cells that came with my charger such that I only get about 200-300 shots before the camera quits. I get 800-900 shots with the Eneloops under similar conditions. With the low self-discharge I can charge the Eneloops, pop them into the camera and then forget about them until the low-batt indicator appears. I stuff everything into my kit-bag until I need it -- even if several weeks go by before I suddenly need to grab the bag and dash out somewhere to shoot. I never worry at all about whether I charged up batteries the night before. > For me, I would rather just pay less for nimh > that dont have a charge when new or dont hold > charges for 3-9 months, I couldnt care less unless > it was a free feature maybe. > I have shopped around and bought Eneloops at the same price as Energizers, so yes, it is (or can be) a free feature. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

