Frank,
Chicago is built along the original horse-car rail lines (Milwaukee
Ave. for Chicagoans).
The horse-cars were replaced by streetcars then cars and buses.
Rail lines are charming and not often seen in N.America.
Difficult turning radii are to be expected in the cities.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:00 AM, frank theriault
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Bob Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Nice Frank, I like train shots,
>> and those are handsome little numbers.
>
> Hi, Bob,
>
> I like the look of Toronto's current streetcars as well.  They're near
> the end of their service schedule as they've been on the road since
> the 70's.  Built in Canada, I recall that when they were being ordered
> many wanted a more "modern" look, but they decided on something a bit
> more "traditional" - the look's served them well over the years.
>
> There's currently a competition ongoing to build a new fleet, but
> there are lots of snags along the way, including a requirement of very
> short turning radii on ~all~ cars due to some very old trackage in
> parts of town - so far no one seems to be able to provide cars to meet
> that spec.
>
> Bombardier seems to be the front-runner, if for no other reason than
> that they're Canadian, but they seem to have the most trouble meeting
> all required specs.
>
> As lovely as these older cars are, they badly need modernizing.  With
> their very high floors they're not accessible to those with
> disabilities, and the aisles are very narrow so standing room is
> cramped at best.
>
> I'm not thrilled with any of the proposed designs that I've seen, but
> I'm sure that passenger amenities will be better.  I'm happy that
> Toronto was one of the few cities in North America that held onto
> their tramways, streetcars, trolleys, whatever one calls them, back in
> the 50's and 60's when everyone else seemed to be trashing theirs -
> they're an integral part of our public transit system, along with
> subways and buses.
>
> Thanks for looking and commenting.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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