I've found that, in recent years, many brides are looking for a candid, photojournalist style. Partly because they've read that kind of work is the latest thing. Plus, I advertise my work has being in the editorial vane with minimal posing, so most clients who come my way are looking for that.
Paul
On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

It is one thing to be hard nosed with existing customers, but with
weddings, you are trying to get the booking.  So what the brides are
looking for is all this 'artsy' stuff.  Quite honestly, it is more a
female/male thing.  Women are more into romantic, dreamy stuff and
men aren't.  It is a bit like the Anne Geddes babies stuff - makes me
want to wretch, yet my wife thinks it is very cute.

So while I can tell potential clients I don't do that 'artsy' stuff,
many competitors do.  So you lose out on business.  I am currently
losing out on business, but at least have my dignity intact.

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Thursday, February 5, 2009, 10:08:53 AM, you wrote:

PS> I've become pretty hard-nosed with my customers about payment for the
PS> work I do for them.  I'll work with them to come up with something
PS> value-added that costs me little time or money but if they want a
PS> significant investment of either one for nothing they're out of luck.

PS> If they could have done it themselves, then they shouldn't have hired me PS> to begin with. I figure if they hire me they either (a) can't do it PS> themselves or (b) don't want to do it themselves, so the argument that
PS> "I could have done that myself" doesn't wash.  My investment in
PS> equipment and years of experience are valuable to me and should be
PS> valuable to the customer as well.

PS> Over the years I've developed a few simple rules about payment for my PS> services. Occasionally I get soft hearted and bend those rules - and
PS> almost invariably end up regretting it.

PS> -p

PS> William Robb wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Sullivan"
Subject: Re: Film-days


Bill,
Charge more for tricks.

That is the idea. Unfortunately, we are living in an era where everyone with a computer is a self styled Photoshop master. We've had people want a trick post process but not want to pay for it because they could do it
themselves in "just a few minutes at home".
It's the old "Uncle George has a good camera so why am I paying a
professional so much" syndrome.

William Robb

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