Talking about FF Pentax is for lemmings - post after mindless post. -- Best regards, Bruce
Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:42:12 PM, you wrote: AM> Umm, I guess you missed the entire lens production capacity issue that AM> Pentax has been struggling with for the last 2 years? If they can't AM> even keep their current production lenses reliably in stock, or manage AM> to ship lenses announced 2 years ago, how the hell are they going to AM> introduce a completely new set of FF zooms? Pentax would need a AM> minimum of 3 new zooms (wide, normal, tele) to complement a new FF AM> body for that body to be viable in the marketplace and they simply AM> don't have the production capacity to make those lenses, even in the AM> low volumes that a FF body would need (since its not like a FF body is AM> going to sell in massive numbers anyways). AM> -Adam AM> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:37 PM, JC OConnell <[email protected]> wrote: >> I said "camera systems" which means FF cameras AND lenses. >> FF is not just about AOV, its about higher resolution and lower >> noise at higher ISOs. This FF issue wont go away. >> >> Regarding FF lenses, they produced them for many many years, >> I dont see any reason why they cant get back into them, its >> not like they havent been there. If they put all their eggs >> into the APS basket, they may have made a mistake. >> >> JC O'Connell >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Adam Maas >> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:14 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: FF pentax DSLR >> >> >> You can't sell cameras without lenses. And Pentax is having enough >> issues producing lenses for its current lineup (see all the delays on >> new lenses getting to market, especially the 60-250). And no, those 12 >> million 50mm f2's out there on the used market are not a viable >> replacement for a proper FF lens lineup. Pentax can't put out a camera >> that has to rely on the used marketplace for lenses if it wants that >> camera to sell(Used Pentax lenses that aren't 28mm, 50mm or 135mm are >> hard enough to get as it is) >> >> Pentax may put out a FF body. But not until they're ready to launch a FF >> lens lineup again. The only way I could see them doing so today would be >> to do a 'Limited' body to match the FA Limited lenses. But then buyers >> would be stuck with Pentax's tiny range of FF lenses (which comes down >> to the FA Limiteds, D-FA macros and a couple other >> holdovers) >> >> -Adam >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:42 PM, JC OConnell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Pentax has offer camera systems that keep up with >>> the photo marketplace, not just their own current lens lineups... >>> >>> JC O'Connell >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Adam Maas >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:10 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: FF pentax DSLR >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:58 PM, JC OConnell <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Now that Canon, Nikon, and Sony (sony?) >>>> all have FF (24x36mm) DSLRs, can pentax be far behind? >>>> I cant believe Sony beat them to that punch. >>>> >>>> JC O'Connell >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>> >>> Pentax's lens line is almost entirely crop-oriented. Sony's lens >>> lineup (inherited from Minolta and new designs) is almost entirely FF >>> oriented. And Sony is a major sensor designer. And Sony'd all but >>> announced an FF body back at PMA 2007. It's actually more surprising >>> that Nikon beat Sony to the punch than Sony beating Pentax. >>> >>> -- >>> M. 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