Your 'honest' comment struck a chord.  It has been interesting to
watch several people I know transition from film to digital.  When on
film they did not do their own darkroom work so relied on a lab.  As
they first moved to digital, they felt that any manipulation was
'bad' and 'dishonest'.  Then they learned that the image captured was
not shown to it's best potential and by minor tweaking (contrast,
saturation, etc) they were able to get a better image.  This is quite
similar to picking a film to best deal with a situation you are going
to photograph.  Then even further, they have learned to do more post
processing to get the image they are really after.

I think what happens is while shooting film, for these people, the
act of shooting was the major portion of their involvement.  Now with
the ability to post process reasonably, there is more to finishing an
image than simply taking the picture.  The taking of the picture is
only one step in several to produce the image that they have in mind.

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Bruce


Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 2:51:36 PM, you wrote:

NW> Yes, it is. But somewhere along the line I came to view one as
NW> "honest" and the other as "dishonest."

NW> Not that it's that simple though. Because I think that a "straight"
NW> photo can be dishonest as well.

NW> Which is something that I've also been thinking about in regards to my
NW> original photo. I like my shot quite a bit, but I cycled past that
NW> church again the other day and I realized that it is not an honest
NW> photo.

NW> The reason I believe that is because in the photo the tower appears to
NW> be much taller than the rest of the building, when in reality the roof
NW> line to the right of the tower in the photo is higher.

NW> I didn't think about it when I shot it, and then I didn't think about
NW> it when I got the negs back.

NW> So what do you all think about that?

NW> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Bruce Dayton
NW> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Isn't just changing the lens or the angle that you take the shot,
>> changing the perspective?  It would seem that if altering the photo
>> after the shot bothers you, then altering the photo before the shot
>> should to.  Just different methods of accomplishing the same basic
>> thing.
>>
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>> Best regards,
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 5:06:20 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> NW> Thanks to all the folks who took time to comment on this last PESO of
>> NW> mine. I do appreciate the critiques.
>>
>> NW> One item I'd like to touch on is the concept of software perspective
>> NW> control. I'd been thinking about this recently before I'd posted my
>> NW> PESO and then Brian brought it up in his critique of my image.
>>
>> NW> I'm just amazed at how fast technology changes. The last time I was an
>> NW> active member of this list (granted that was 8 years ago) the only way
>> NW> to achieve perspective control was with a view camera or shift lens.
>> NW> Now you can get something of the same effect using photoshop.
>>
>> NW> I don't currently have any software with the ability to "correct"
>> NW> perspective, but an older laptop of mine had Elements 2 which did. I
>> NW> played around with it a bit but never could really get my heart into
>> NW> it.
>>
>> NW> I think it mainly has to do with all those years at the newspaper. Any
>> NW> alteration of a photograph like that just makes me cringe.
>>
>> NW> I'm curious to hear more of you all's opinions on the process?
>>
>> NW> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Brian Walters <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>>> Nice composition but the tower gets a  bit lost in the background sky.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I'd try a bit of perspective correction to make the verticals
>>>> vertical and the horizontals, er...horizontal.  It may not be an
>>>> improvement but worth investigating.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Brian Walters
>>>> Western Sydney Australia
>>>> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:52 -0500, "Nick Wright"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Here's another PESO:
>>>>> http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/church-tower-2/
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment welcome and appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ~Nick David Wright
>>>>> http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/
>>>>>
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