Bob, I read 'The Arms of Krupp' in the '60, all 1,000+ pages. I know who the man was. That's a photo for the annual report. Regards, Bob S.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Bob W <[email protected]> wrote: >> Is it a character study? Perhaps the subject and >> photographer thought so, maybe >> even the general public in 1962. Today in 2009, I see a pretty >> picture of an older executive. > > I think you are seriously missing the point about that picture. > > Bob > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Bob Sullivan >> Sent: 11 April 2009 21:42 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: PESO - portrait of a young man >> >> Bob, >> Another red herring! >> Ths Krupp shot is obviously heavily staged as a portrait with the >> subjects cooperation. >> Is it a character study? Perhaps the subject and >> photographer thought so, maybe >> even the general public in 1962. Today in 2009, I see a pretty >> picture of an older executive. >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Bob W <[email protected]> wrote: >> > That's a very interesting difference in how we use the >> words. So, to give an >> > example, you would not consider Arnold Newman's photograph >> of Krupp to be a >> > portrait? If so, it goes very strongly against the way the word is >> > understood in British English at the very least. >> > >> > I have never noticed such a distinction in American or >> Canadian writing >> > about photography. >> > >> > You can see Newman's picture of Krupp on the PDN page for Newman >> > (http://www.pdngallery.com/legends/newman/). Under Portraits! ;o) >> > >> > Bob >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Around here, the meaning of portrait and character study are much >> >> more like Bill has said. Perhaps it has meaning based on >> the intent. >> >> In a character study, one is trying to bring out something >> more about >> >> the person than just the exterior view. In a portrait one >> is trying >> >> to show a pleasing view of the exterior. >> >> >> >> Perhaps another way to think of it is that portraits are regularly >> >> asked for and paid for by the subject. Character studies >> may not be. >> >> I'm sure in different parts of the world, there is a difference of >> >> meaning of these words. And, at times, even with >> different meanings, >> >> a single photograph could show both. One of the easiest >> tests of the >> >> portrait success is if the subject is happy with the image. >> >> >> >> So Jostein, has the subject seen this image and what did he think? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >> >> >> Friday, April 10, 2009, 4:23:39 AM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> 2009/4/9 William Robb <[email protected]>: >> >> >> > Had you called it a character study, then I would >> have commented >> >> >> > differently. You called it a portrait, and that had a great >> >> >> deal to do with >> >> >> > my response to it. >> >> >> >> >> >> hmm... >> >> >> That's interesting. Didn't cross my mind that the word >> "portrait" >> >> >> primed people that much. Or maybe that my understanding of >> >> the word is >> >> >> that deviant... :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> Another lesson learned, hopefully. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >snip< >> >> >> >> BW> I always think of 'character study' and 'portrait' as >> >> synonymous. To me the >> >> BW> whole point of a portrait is to reveal something of the >> >> person's character >> >> BW> to the viewer. Otherwise it's just a mug shot, or a study >> >> in texture or >> >> BW> form. >> >> >> >> BW> Bob >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >> >> above and follow the directions. >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > [email protected] >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> > >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >> above and follow the directions. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
