> Is it a character study? Perhaps the subject and > photographer thought so, maybe > even the general public in 1962. Today in 2009, I see a pretty > picture of an older executive.
I think you are seriously missing the point about that picture. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Bob Sullivan > Sent: 11 April 2009 21:42 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - portrait of a young man > > Bob, > Another red herring! > Ths Krupp shot is obviously heavily staged as a portrait with the > subjects cooperation. > Is it a character study? Perhaps the subject and > photographer thought so, maybe > even the general public in 1962. Today in 2009, I see a pretty > picture of an older executive. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Bob W <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's a very interesting difference in how we use the > words. So, to give an > > example, you would not consider Arnold Newman's photograph > of Krupp to be a > > portrait? If so, it goes very strongly against the way the word is > > understood in British English at the very least. > > > > I have never noticed such a distinction in American or > Canadian writing > > about photography. > > > > You can see Newman's picture of Krupp on the PDN page for Newman > > (http://www.pdngallery.com/legends/newman/). Under Portraits! ;o) > > > > Bob > > > > > >> > >> Around here, the meaning of portrait and character study are much > >> more like Bill has said. Perhaps it has meaning based on > the intent. > >> In a character study, one is trying to bring out something > more about > >> the person than just the exterior view. In a portrait one > is trying > >> to show a pleasing view of the exterior. > >> > >> Perhaps another way to think of it is that portraits are regularly > >> asked for and paid for by the subject. Character studies > may not be. > >> I'm sure in different parts of the world, there is a difference of > >> meaning of these words. And, at times, even with > different meanings, > >> a single photograph could show both. One of the easiest > tests of the > >> portrait success is if the subject is happy with the image. > >> > >> So Jostein, has the subject seen this image and what did he think? > >> > >> -- > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> Friday, April 10, 2009, 4:23:39 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> >> 2009/4/9 William Robb <[email protected]>: > >> >> > Had you called it a character study, then I would > have commented > >> >> > differently. You called it a portrait, and that had a great > >> >> deal to do with > >> >> > my response to it. > >> >> > >> >> hmm... > >> >> That's interesting. Didn't cross my mind that the word > "portrait" > >> >> primed people that much. Or maybe that my understanding of > >> the word is > >> >> that deviant... :-) > >> >> > >> >> Another lesson learned, hopefully. > >> >> > >> > >> >snip< > >> > >> BW> I always think of 'character study' and 'portrait' as > >> synonymous. To me the > >> BW> whole point of a portrait is to reveal something of the > >> person's character > >> BW> to the viewer. Otherwise it's just a mug shot, or a study > >> in texture or > >> BW> form. > >> > >> BW> Bob > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> [email protected] > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > >> above and follow the directions. > >> > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
