Graydon,
Couldn't that be the 60-250mm set at 196mm?
As for needing something longer for birds,
I learned with film that I couldn't afford it.
Mirror lenses have those annoying rings, and
anything bigger/faster than A400/5.6 is $$$$$.
For birds, you need to set-up in a hide.
My current alligator farm photos used A300mm f4,
A300mm with a AF1.7, or a AF70-200/2.8.
The situation was very favorable, but that's what you need.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Graydon <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 03:13:39PM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
>> From: "Margus M?nnik"
>> > Random tourist (Tallinn Old City is full of 'em) shot at f/5.6. I
>> > was going to shoot a church tower in background and she simply
>> > walked into the frame...
>> > http://nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=10408771&size=o&album_id=148643
>> > (full size, untouched jpeg from camera)
>> >
>> > So, boys and girls, we're doomed. There's nothing to whine about
>> > Pentax (long zoom) lenses quality any more - all those hundreds and
>> > thousands of crappy pictures will be our own fault.
>>
>> Damn.  This kind of things might make me change my plans....
>
> It's a gorgeous picture, but I do wonder about a couple bits of the
> EXIF, particularly
>
> SR Result                       : Stabilized
> Shake Reduction                 : Unknown (15)
> SR Half Press Time              : 4.25 s or longer
> SR Focal Length                 : 196 mm
>
> That would seem to indicate that SR was on, that the lens is unknown to
> the firmware, and that the actual focal length is less than 200mm
> despite the lens being set at 250mm.  (Which I understand is a plausible
> result of distance-to-subject in some designs.)
>
> I would be curious as to anyone else's interpretation of that EXIF
> information.
>
> -- Graydon
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