Not sure if this helps your decision making, but I made a 1200 dpi scan
of the center 1/3 of an almost 8"x10" print from my Olympus P-400 dye
sub printer (scanner was an Epson Perfection 2450 Photo, original image
was on Velvia, LX, SMC 135/2.5, scanned using RFS3600 at 3600 dpi, then
printed at 314 dpi with some downscaling on the P-400).

WARNING!  3.5 MB file!  (With my little 384kBit/s DSL connection on my
server, it'll take a minimum of 72 seconds to load)

http://www.spotmatic.com/images/P-400_Scan.jpg

-Gerald

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Subject: Re: Winners (PDML 2001 Printer Challenge)


I'd like to see some comparisons of inket and dye sub. I've heard that
the colors bleed on dye subs. Perhaps that's old information? In any
case, I'd like to learn more before I buy my next printer. (My Epson
1200 has printed several hundred big prints and perhaps a thousand
homework papers. It's getting long i the tooth. (Although it's still a
winner :-) Paul

Gerald Cermak wrote:

> Can we have a list of losing printers so we can know what the winners'

> competition was like?
>
> Were there any dye sub printers in the mix?
>
> My wife's Epson 1270 does a great job for inkjet (much better than my
> Canon BJC-5100), but even she agrees my (our) P-400's output is truly
> amazing compared to the 1270.
>
> Gerald
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Rittenhouse
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:27 PM
> To: Pentax Discussion Malling List
> Subject: Winners (PDML 2001 Printer Challenge)
>
> Here are the winners of  the PDML 2001 Printer Challenge.
>
> For those who have not been following this Challenge, it all started
> when I told someone on the list  I had never seen an inkjet print that

> I though matched a photographic print. He said I had not seen one of
> his. I replied,
> send me one. He didn't, but Aaron said everybody should send me one.
And
> I
> said if they do I will post a list of printer ratings based on those
> prints.
> To prime the pump, I said I would confer upon the senders best three
> prints,
> based on my opinion, the title of "PDML 2001 Master Digital Printer".
I
> mentioned this to the area Pentax Rep and he offered to donate some
> Pentax
> memorabilia as prizes.
>
> So there are basically two phases to this challenge.
>
> One, a compilation of printer ratings based upon prints sent to me by
> list members. The rating for a given printer is based upon the best
> print I have
> received that was printed on that particular model printer. I will
give
> the
> current ratings in another post. This list of rating is an ongoing
thing
> and
> I will post them monthly.
>
> Two, this contest, based upon my purely subjective rating of the
> prints I have received. The winner's have been selected from those who

> had sent me
> prints postmarked on or before December 15, 2001, and were made from
the
> submitter's original photos. Names of the prints have been assigned by
> me
> for my convenience. Prizes will be mailed about the end of the week.
>
> These three winners may add the sig line "2001 PDML Master Digital
> Printer" to their PDML posts. You won it, flaunt it.
>
> So here are the WINNERS!  (Drum roll please, maestro).
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> -
> Third Prize (Winner of the Pentax PMA Lapel Pin featuring the MZ-S).
> Kathy Leickly --Autumn Trees
>
> Xerox Tektronix Phaser 850. No details
>
> Because I like it! Kathy sent three identical photos, one done on an
> HP Deskjet 722C, two done on the Xerox (one on plain paper, one on
> glossy photo paper). My selection for third place is the one done on
> the glossy photo paper with the Xerox. The Phaser printers are what
> Tektronics used to call
> solid state laser printers that use a block of toner instead of
powder.
> Kathy says he blocks are wax like. The resulting print has a kind of
oil
> painting like look to it. Strangely the print on plain paper is
shinier
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> -
> Second Prize (winner of the Leather Pentax Keycase).
> Paul Stenquist --Maple Leaf
>
> Epson Photo 1200,  printed from a 4800dpi scan using an Agfa Duoscan
> 2500 T from a transparency taken with a Pentax LX and a Vivitar Series

> 1 90/2.5 Macro.
>
> Paul's print is on Ilford Inkjet Matte Fine Art Paper. The maple leaf
> seems to glow. This paper hides printer defects, but give an almost
> painting like
> print. Certainly the print is worthy of hanging on the wall.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> --
> Grand Prize (winner of the Pentax Swiss Army Knife).
> Mike Nosal  --Column
>
> Epson 1270,  printed at 480dpi, from a scan made on an Imacon
> Flextight scanner. Taken with his Pentax ZX-7, and a "F" 80-200 lens.
>
> Mikes print of the details of a column is an example of a print that
> will show every defect of the printer. Large areas of monotone show
> any sign of
> banning or unevenness. The column is about 90% white which will
clearly
> show
> up any halftoning. It shows very little of any of those problems. What
> it
> does show is that it is worthwhile to use a higher res image than is
> usually
> claimed to be optimum. Mikes superb print shows that today's inkjet
> printer
> can do very high quality work.
>
> Ciao,
> graywolf
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