Daimler also seriously decontented the Chrysler cars interiors and was repsonsible for absolutely gutting the smaller FWD platforms. Sit in a 300M and a pre-2008 300C sometime. The interior of the 300M is significantly better than even the current 300C let alone the atrocious interiors in the pre-2008 models (the 300M and other 2nd generation LH cars were the last pre-Daimler Chysler designs). The real pity of the death of cab forward is that in most regards other than drivetrain the cab forward designs are flat out better cars than their successors. Even the LX cars (300, Charger, Magnum and Challenger), which are very nice cars for the ost part are in most ways inferior to the LH's which proceeded them. Especially when it comes to view.
Chrysler should have gone to a 3rd generation LH platform as a upper midsize choice rather than the atrocious clunker that is the current Sebring/Avenger. And the less that is said about the Caliber the better. -Adam On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Brendan MacRae <[email protected]> wrote: > > Daimler did away with the "cab-forward" design philosophy and predominance of > front-wheel-drive that was prevalent at Chrysler and started the trend for > rear wheel driven cars. Hence the 300 series, the Magnum, and the Charger. > They also contributed to the Chrysler Crossfire design, which I understand > was basically a domestic platform for the Mercedes CLK drivetrain. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: paul stenquist <[email protected]> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:48:25 PM >> Subject: Re: OT: help identifying this car >> >> The Challenger project only got rolling after Daimler was gone. The >> 300 benefited somewhat from the Daimler connection, but for the most >> part, Daimler drained Chrysler resources without contributing a whole >> hell of a lot. I was there; saw it happen. >> Paul >> On Jun 3, 2009, at 9:39 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: >> >> > Well, the 300 and the retro Challenger were done with Daimler, both >> > Of which the best things they did in many years. >> > >> > J.C. O'Connell ( mailto:[email protected] ) >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> > Of >> > paul stenquist >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:35 PM >> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > Subject: Re: OT: help identifying this car >> > >> > >> > Chrysler did just fine until Daimler got involved. Dodge was one of >> > the world's most profitable brands in the nineties, as was Jeep. And, >> > yes, with a dealership organization, we probably will get Alfas >> > but not from Chrysler. We'll get Dodges, Chrysler, and Jeeps from >> > Chrysler. There will probably be a compact Dodge and Chrysler shared >> > with Fiat, but the brands won't be mixed. That wouldn't make any >> > sense. >> > >> > Very clever of you Godders to be able to make fun of the Chrysler >> > name. You're such a wit. >> > Paul >> > >> > >> > On Jun 3, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> On Jun 3, 2009, at 5:10 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> >> >>> John Mullan wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> It is really a prototype for the first Chrysler now that the >> >>>> majority is >> >>>> owned by FIAT. See this link for a road test. >> >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/36674...@n07/3593664412/ >> >>> >> >> Very funny. A beautiful graphics job too. >> >> >> >> But what I do think we *might* get, after the dunderheads at >> >> CRAPysler are canned and out of the way, might be more like this: >> >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i10Xv2_XLQ >> >> >> >> One can only hope. >> >> >> >> G >> >> >> >> -- >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> >> and follow the directions. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > [email protected] >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> > follow the directions. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > [email protected] >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> > and follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >> the directions. > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
