Thanks, Miserere!
I think it well worth the money .

And I should have mentioned that  Zack and Joe have are very different
on money issues:
Zack would tell you not to buy anything that you do not need right now.
And to seek for cheap alternatives.
For example he uses a cheap golf bag instead of a a dedicated photo
bag, because it is few times cheaper and it does what it should do.
Same thing with lighting - Zack will almost always use a single light.
Only if he feels that the subject calls for additional lights he will
add more very carefully.
Joe  has top-notch equipment  and his lighting schemes are usually
quite complicated, I doubt he often shoots with a single light.
So at Zack's workshop you can learn howto use a single light, how to
play with modifiers.
At Joe's workshop you can try a lot of different cool thing - soft
boxes, reflectors, flashes, diffusers....
I am very happy that  I attended those workshops in this order: first
Zack, next Joe.
And I was about to chose one it would be Zack's.
But both are excellent!

--Sasha
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Miserere<[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, Sasha!
>
> My one question would be: Is it worth the money?
>
> I have eyed Zack's workshops before and I feel they would be more my
> style, but hey, at this point any of these guys can teach me more than
> I can absorb, so it probably doesn't matter  :-)
>
> Nice set of photos you took. This is my fave:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/3773787765/in/set-72157621777152377/
>
> Love that patch of light on her nose and under the right eye.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>  --M.
>
>
> 2009/7/31 Sasha Sobol <[email protected]>:
>> First the link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157621777152377
>>
>> The workshop consisted of four parts :
>> In the first part (short) Joe showed some photos of him and commented on 
>> them.
>> Second part: he showed how would use some of the equipment (starting
>> with one flash on camera, moving up to four lights in different
>> set-ups, commenting all the way and showing what he shoot on a
>> laptop). That was cool and very educational.
>> Third part: we, in group of four were assigned to  model (or she was
>> assigned to us), grabbed whatever equipment we needed  and went out
>> and shoot for four hours.
>> Joe circled around, help a bit here and there.
>> Oh, I forgot to say that in the middle of second part Moose Peterson
>> came, with his family - Joe did not expect him coming but it was
>> obviously a pleasant surprise.
>> Moose also helped here and there a little.
>> Third part - a quick wrap-up. That was done too fast I think - too
>> many frames shoot (20 photographers, 4 hours, some shoot series).
>>
>> Overall I was a nice experience.
>> Models were great, especially Crystal - the one that we four worked with.
>>
>> Compared to Zack Arias's workshop i attended before...
>> Well, this was completely different.
>> Here we had complete freedom, so we made more mistakes, some set-up I
>> failed to anything from.
>> With Zack we would create a set-up himself so we are were starting from that.
>>
>> I do not know which i like more.
>>
>> Some (ir)relevant information:
>> Pentax K20d, 21mm& 77mm primes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Sasha
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