---- Adam Maas <[email protected]> wrote: > I think the failure of CVT's for so long had more to do with poor > performance and the predilection to put them in already slow cars than > any unfamiliar feel issues. The Subaru Justy comes to mind as a > classic example (and also one of the big failures of CVT's), a fun > little car to drive in 5 speed form, but 72HP and a CVT made the thing > feel slow and drive slow, the CVT accelerated much slower than the > manual tranny version. > > -Adam
If you ever had to adjust the belts on a DAF in the middle of a Northumbrian winter, outdoors, you would know for certain what the big problem with CVT was until Ford developed the chain drive version. > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:28 AM, paul stenquist > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Igor. You're right in that continuously variable transmissions aren't > > new, but perhaps the "shift simulation" is a new wrinkle here. Consumers > > originally rejected the CVTs as a result of the unfamiliar feel. > > Paul > > On Oct 30, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > > >> > >> Sorry, Paul, - it might not be exactly what you a looking for, but > >> I thought I'd share this thought. > >> > >> This is not the cutting-edge technology, but it is something I am > >> rather impressed from the technical point of view: the stepless > >> transmission in mid-consumer-level passenger cars (e.g. Nissan Rogue, > >> Nissan Versa). > >> > >> I heard about their existence several years ago, and I heard > >> that some companies have been simulating gear-shifting (the jerky > >> motion) on top of it, but I didn't appreciate that they appeared > >> in mid-to-low level consumer cars. > >> They came to the market so quietly that many consumers (including > >> technically-reasonable ones) don't even know about existence of such > >> technology. > >> > >> Igor > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 04:13:55PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: > >>> > >>> What's the latest gee-whiz technology in the auto biz. Looking for > >>> topics that are unusual and somewhat obscure. For example the ceramic > >>> brake disc is potentially a good topic, the hydrogen fuel cell is > >>> probably not. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> [email protected] > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

