no offense but your gear is not adequate enough
to say you are "record limited" Linear trackers are
not as good as pivoted arms until you get up over
$5K for just the tonearm because the only really
good linear trackers are the expensive air bearing models.

Not that Onkyo and Pioneer are junk, but they are
are a long long away from full vinyl reproduction
pinnacle, read my post and comprehend it, I said a
$10,000 turntable doesn't sound as good as the
best, currently around $100,000. By deduction a
$1000 turntable doesn't sound as good as a $100K one either.
your still playback gear limited at $1K for sure.


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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
John Sessoms
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 5:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the "all vinyl is noisy" myth, ,
exposedinvideo


Reading for comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

From: "J.C. O'Connell"
> And NOPE the limiting factor in nearly all cases for
> vinyl playback quality isnt the record, its nearly always
> the turntable/tonearm/cartridge setup. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Sessoms

>> PS: FWIW, I do have the "right" equipment, Pioneer PL-L1000a 
>> tangential
>> tracking turntable going into a Onkyo receiver and output to a
quality 
>> set of Yamaha speakers. I can't remember what the cartridge is, but
it 
>> cost almost as much as the turntable.
>> 

Turntable ran about $700 back in the late 70s. Cartridge mounted on it 
was about $500. It should be adequate, even all these years later.

Hope so, 'cause I got other things I'd rather spend the money on
now-a-days.

>> The limiting factor for vinyl is the quality of all those old 
>> records,
>> which went to a lot of parties while I was in my teens & twenties.
They 
>> came through the 60s & 70s in just about the same shape I did ...
even 
>> after taking 'em to an audiophile record shop to have them specially 
>> cleaned and sleeved at $20 a pop.
>> 

Maybe you never got invited to a party; never had anyone want you to 
bring your records over.

But, you get a bunch of people together drinkin', dancin' and carryin' 
on, sometimes the records can get a little shopworn.

When that happens, the best turntable in the world won't undo the 
scratches and spilled beer.

Don't see any reason to replace them at this late date. The ones I 
really needed to save I took to that "audiophile" shop, got 'em cleaned 
and sleeved ... then ripped 'em to CD so I could listen to the music 
without further wear and tear on the vinyl.


>> PPS: The "phile" in audiophile is short for "philistine".

Bottom line is your's is not the only acceptable way. What floats your 
boat is fine for you.

I'm going to do my own thing.

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