As far as the records themselves go, the physical discs, things have worked perfectly for the music lover because the sound quality of the disc recordings/pressings themselves has been way ahead of the playback gear for decades. What this means is your records are far better recordings than you can imagine and always have been, its just that its taken many many years for modern playback gear to be able extract the info properly. The only bad part is its expensive gear to do it, but it could be worse, the records themselves could have sucked all along until recently but they didnt. There are some classical recordings on LP that are roughly 50 years old that sound incredible on modern gear, better than some much later stuff when transistors and multichannel recording became the norm. What that proves is the basic disc mastering, plating, and pressing technology used to make LPs has been superb for a long long time, long enough for most of the great recordings of the latter half of the 20th century that so many people cherish today.
-- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:40 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital I didn't forget, it's just that most people are not going to (cannot) spend that kind of money for what is considered ultra-high end state of the art, which is itself is a turmoil of hair-splitting. FWIW, when vinyl was in it's heyday, considering the quality of playback equipment most commonly used by the largest % of the record market, I wonder whether the LP's themselves were made to the high quality audio specifications, that eliteists believe they are hearing. I can hear a diffference between same vinyl and CD recordings, but how good is the vinyl, really? My point in starting the thread was to point out how wonderful I thought the vinyl media sounds after not listening to it for many years, not to hash out how to get the best sound reproduction at prices almost no one can afford. Let's face it, most people won't spend over $1000 on an entire home theatre system, much less for a single component like a turntable or cartridge. I'd have a hard time justifying $1000 for any single component. We all live with what we can reasonably afford within in our circumstances and if we are really into it, we get the best we can get within those constraints. Those contraints are different for each of us. Tom On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM, J.C. O'Connell <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess you forgot about the several posts made saying > that CD sounds as good ( or even better ) than LP or that you can get > state of the art vinyl reproduction for only a $1K These things > are just not true, and needed some rebuattals bigtime. > > -- > J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) > Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Tom C > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:09 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital > > > J.C., seriously, are you the pot or are you the kettle? > > Because 99.9% of the people here on this list don't have a spare $10K, > much less $100K lying dormant that they would put into a sound system, > much less just one component, nor does the thought even enter our > minds. The thread never was about how much money one had to spend. > > I'm actually surprised somone did not make the analogy between film > and digital and start arguing the inherent purity and noiseless > qualities of large format film. > > Tom > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:13 AM, J.C. O'Connell <[email protected]> > wrote: >> one thing is clear, this has gone too far HERE considering its >> completely off-topic. >> >> -- >> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of eckinator >> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:18 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital >> >> >> It is - there are no opinions involved - just multiple parallel >> truths > >> governing the same subjects and monologues are held in a tone of >> basic > >> civility - opinions regularly make discussions go sour; they should >> be > >> banned... ]=) >> >> 2009/11/16 Tom C <[email protected]>: >>> And how is that different than when cameras, art, and photography >>> are > >>> discussed??? :-) >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Tim Bray <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Adam Maas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've actually just got a long-nurtured hate >>>> >>>> You know, I can't help but notice that the generally friendly and >>>> humorous tone around here has become bitter and adversarial once we >>>> ventured into the music/audio territory. 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