On Dec 19, 2009, at 14:25 , frank theriault wrote:

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Joseph McAllister <[email protected]> wrote:

Substitute asparagus, broccoli, peas, corn and many other types of produce
for the words beef cattle. Why isn't it the same thing?

If you can't tell the difference between vegetables and cattle then
little will be accomplished by further discussing this.

Quite frankly, you're being absurd.


My point was that the natural lives of all of these items are truncated at some point for consumption by some life form, especially us! We do not wait for the apple to fall from the tree to eat it. The apples "job" is to fall on it's own, rot and enrich the soil where it fell so it's seeds can produce a replacement tree for the one from which it came.

Eve started this nature interuptus long ago, didn't she? Or was that Adam. Or was it the snake?


Joseph McAllister
[email protected]

“ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by unskilled workers!”
— Martin G. Wolf, PhD


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