On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:55:13 -0600 "William Robb" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Subash" > Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, > February 2010 > > > > >> nature and got what was coming to him - because the police can. > >> It's not the same as it was only a few years ago, we live in a > >> different society - admittedly not an ideal society but whose > >> fault is that... > > > > Cotty, IIRC, this is the third or fourth time on the list you've > > said something like that, that it's no longer the same world or > > something to that effect. i would like you to expand on that, if > > you may. am just curious to know what exactly you mean by that. you > > may choose not to, of course :-)) > > It's not the same society. A VERY BAD THING happened on September 11, > 2001, and ever since then, governments have been using it as an > excuse to consolidate power. > Perhaps they see the really big camera as a threat, perhaps they just > see the really big camera as an easy target of harassment so that it > looks like they are doing something while doing nothing that will > benefit anyone. Great Britain is leading the Fascist charge, and we > are all moving closer and closer to effectively living in elected > dictatorships where we have no freedoms. > The fact that in Britain a street photographer who has done no wrong > can be arrested for "antisocial positioning of a camera" should scare > the living shit out of anyone who leaves their home with a camera > strap around their neck. thanks Bill, appreciate that. as for 9/11, you have my sympathies, it *was* a bad thing to happen *but* very bad things have been happening elsewhere all along, and i would just like to say that both al qaeda and saddam were creations of the US in their proxy wars against the former USSR and Iran respectively. one has to be really naive to play a politics of convenience and not expect it to boomerang badly sometime or the other... as to dslrs in public places, it's not such big problem here yet though after the mumbai terror attacks of 2008, things like that are beginning to happen here too. cameras in big numbers in public places are still relatively rare here and is generally accepted as long as one is obviously seen to be a 'tourist' photographing landmarks. if not people kind of get self-conscious and start posing. :-) as to the authorities it is still not such a big problem yet. we have a flickr group here who do once a month photo-walks and there is the occasional pompous policeman trying to throw his weight around. that can of course be handled because usually he is clueless about the law anyway (in india, photography is legal and permitted in any public place that does not have an explicit, visible directive from the government banning photography: usually around 'sensitive' and 'defence' sites). if governments thrive by creating paranoia, on a first reading at least, Cotty's post appeared to me as evidence of the fact that they've succeeded quite well. i may be wrong, of course...besides, as dave points out, has nobody heard of google maps and google earth? not to speak of OSM? :) regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
