Bruce, assuming that center weighted simulation with matrix metering sensor is done reasonably well, I see no reason to have major discrepancies between center weighted meters of various cameras. Thus, Bill's mention surprises me as well...
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Bruce Dayton <[email protected]> wrote: > Good information Boris. I think my style has not seen the metering > problems you and Paul have reported. I used the *istD, K10D, K20D > and K-x. But I primarily use Center Weighted metering. I have not > noticed much of any problems when used in the same fashion as the > film cameras - ie: be aware of your metering and subject reflectivity. > > That was why I was surprised by Bill Robb's mention of a difference > with the Center weighted metering on the K7. > > I can say that I have been trying the matrix metering on the K-x a > bit and it seems to do pretty well. It probably is an improvement > over the K20D. > > Anyway, I appreciate all replies to help me understand better. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Monday, March 1, 2010, 9:42:27 PM, you wrote: > > BL> Bruce, I don't have K20D but I have K10D. So my comparison would be > BL> between K10 and K-7. Here goes. > > BL> Generally, my shooting workflow with K10D was to get on location, make > BL> a shot or two and watch the histogram. Then I would usually decide to > BL> give it something between -0.3 to -0.7 Ev of compensation. Then I > BL> would go on shooting. If I notice the scene somewhat different from > BL> those few initial shots, I would review the histogram and reconsider > BL> the compensation. Thusly, I would have spent lots of time chimping and > BL> mostly chimping for histogram. Number of times I would have lost a > BL> shot because I wasn't speedy enough to notice the difference in > BL> lighting. The stability and/or reliability of the meter in K10D had > BL> much to be desired. > > BL> With K-7 I just don't bother. It almost always produces a RAW file > BL> that can be brought to the good shape in post or simply produces spot > BL> on exposure. The only thing I need to decide before hand is whether to > BL> turn on the DR extension. E.g. shooting in that snowy park with > BL> highlight expansion on and 2/3 of shade expansion proved useful so as > BL> to not loose bright snow and dark trees. I've lost few shots with K-7 > BL> due to metering, but it is far less a fraction than in case of K10D. > > BL> I always shoot in matrix metering in hyper program mode - suits me the > best. > > BL> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Bruce Dayton > BL> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> It has been stated by several K7 owners that the metering has >>> improved quite a bit over the K20D. I am curious as to the details >>> of this difference. Are we talking about matrix metering and >>> automatic modes on the camera, or are we talking about center >>> weighted and manual exposure settings... >>> >>> Hopefully you get my gist. Can those who have noticed this please >>> enlighten me a bit on what exactly you have noticed? I can say that >>> the matrix metering in my K-x seems to do a better job that my K20D - >>> of course, I mostly use center weighted so I'm not sure if that >>> matters so much. Or perhaps I use center weighted because it is more >>> predictable. >>> >>> Any thoughts and ideas are appreciated. >>> >>> -- >>> Bruce >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> > > > > BL> -- > BL> Boris > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
