I personally find bottom posting painful to follow - here is my take: if you aren't actively reading the thread or can't remember what is going on in the thread, then bottom posting works well - because you basically keep re-reading the entire thread in each post. If you are actively following the thread and can remember what is going on, then top posting is much faster, because you don't have to wade through all the crap you can remember to get to the new part. It is especially insidious when you are using a smaller vertical screen.
Personally, I don't like bottom posting because it becomes much more work - especially as I use a laptop exclusively and many times using the touchpad - so unnecessary scrolling is a bother. Quite often, I won't even bother to scroll down unless I think it is really worth it. For top posting - my reading is much, much easier. Oh, yeah - and film is king!!!! <tongue in cheek> -- Bruce Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 5:22:11 AM, you wrote: GD> Top posting may be the devil, but it's hard to do otherwise when I'm GD> responding via the Gmail app on an iPod Touch. ;-) GD> But I'm on my laptop now. GD> Graydon: >> ... So I'd be wildly disinclined to suppose that just because you're on OS X >> you're safe. ... GD> I don't make such inappropriate assumptions, Graydon. There are GD> certainly threats out there. That's why Apple maintains a very very GD> proactive group constantly monitoring all the reports such as you, and GD> steve, posted, actively working on a constant basis to block such GD> threats. I know them, the actual people, as I used to work with them. GD> Remember that I worked at Apple in all kinds of capacities, GD> contributing to all kinds of projects because of my roles in developer GD> technical support and development tools groups, for 13 years. And that GD> for six years now, a good half to three quarters of my income has come GD> from operating a business as a Mac OS X computer consultant. GD> However, all of the citations you posted, and steve posted, are not GD> citations of actual incidents. They are reports of professional GD> investigators finding malware, not actual incidents of malware GD> affecting users. I have seen other issues like Larry's crop up from GD> time to time ... not the specific one he's experiencing ... and in GD> every case they had nothing to do with malware or virus attacks on the GD> system. In every case they had to do with corrupted or badly formed GD> application/system preferences. Usually due to either simple, GD> straightforward bugs or installation process glitches. GD> Helping out dozens and dozens of people since Mac OS X shipped in GD> 2001, I have yet to see an actual incident or read a credible report GD> of the viruses or malware out there for Mac OS X actually affecting a GD> users' system. My friends at the three Apple Retail Stores nearby, who GD> staff the Genius Bars, similarly tell me that they hear rumors of a GD> virus or bug many many times when someone comes in with a system that GD> isn't working right, and yet they haven't found one yet: all of the GD> incidents were easily resolved to be simple, straightforward software GD> or hardware problems. GD> So, given that Larry most recently reported that Preview.app prints GD> without error, I contend that the problem in his case is yet another GD> case of "installer or preferences gone awry" with the Adobe Reader GD> application install. I've seen this sort of thing over and over again. GD> Larry, here's a test to try: GD> - Put a copy of PDF documents known to fail on printing into the GD> /Users/Shared directory. GD> - Create a new user account and login to it. GD> - Try printing one with Preview just as a control. GD> - Open the same one with Adobe Reader and try printing. GD> If they fail to print with Adobe Reader, the problem is in the base GD> installation of Adobe Reader. If they print properly, the problem is GD> something wrong in the account preferences of your usual working GD> account. GD> -- GD> Godfrey GD> godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

