I personally find bottom posting painful to follow - here is my take:
if you aren't actively reading the thread or can't remember what is
going on in the thread, then bottom posting works well - because you
basically keep re-reading the entire thread in each post.
If you are actively following the thread and can remember what is
going on, then top posting is much faster, because you don't have to
wade through all the crap you can remember to get to the new part.
It is especially insidious when you are using a smaller vertical
screen.

Personally, I don't like bottom posting because it becomes much more
work - especially as I use a laptop exclusively and many times using
the touchpad - so unnecessary scrolling  is a bother.  Quite often, I
won't even bother to scroll down unless I think it is really worth
it.  For top posting - my reading is much, much easier.

Oh, yeah - and film is king!!!!  <tongue in cheek>

-- 
Bruce



Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 5:22:11 AM, you wrote:

GD> Top posting may be the devil, but it's hard to do otherwise when I'm
GD> responding via the Gmail app on an iPod Touch. ;-)
GD> But I'm on my laptop now.

GD> Graydon:
>> ... So I'd be wildly disinclined to suppose that just because you're on OS X
>> you're safe.  ...

GD> I don't make such inappropriate assumptions, Graydon. There are
GD> certainly threats out there. That's why Apple maintains a very very
GD> proactive group constantly monitoring all the reports such as you, and
GD> steve, posted, actively working on a constant basis to block such
GD> threats. I know them, the actual people, as I used to work with them.
GD> Remember that I worked at Apple in all kinds of capacities,
GD> contributing to all kinds of projects because of my roles in developer
GD> technical support and development tools groups, for 13 years. And that
GD> for six years now, a good half to three quarters of my income has come
GD> from operating a business as a Mac OS X computer consultant.

GD> However, all of the citations you posted, and steve posted, are not
GD> citations of actual incidents. They are reports of professional
GD> investigators finding malware, not actual incidents of malware
GD> affecting users. I have seen other issues like Larry's crop up from
GD> time to time ... not the specific one he's experiencing ... and in
GD> every case they had nothing to do with malware or virus attacks on the
GD> system. In every case they had to do with corrupted or badly formed
GD> application/system preferences. Usually due to either simple,
GD> straightforward bugs or installation process glitches.

GD> Helping out dozens and dozens of people since Mac OS X shipped in
GD> 2001, I have yet to see an actual incident or read a credible report
GD> of the viruses or malware out there for Mac OS X actually affecting a
GD> users' system. My friends at the three Apple Retail Stores nearby, who
GD> staff the Genius Bars, similarly tell me that they hear rumors of a
GD> virus or bug many many times when someone comes in with a system that
GD> isn't working right, and yet they haven't found one yet: all of the
GD> incidents were easily resolved to be simple, straightforward software
GD> or hardware problems.

GD> So, given that Larry most recently reported that Preview.app prints
GD> without error, I contend that the problem in his case is yet another
GD> case of "installer or preferences gone awry" with the Adobe Reader
GD> application install. I've seen this sort of thing over and over again.

GD> Larry, here's a test to try:

GD> - Put a copy of PDF documents known to fail on printing into the
GD> /Users/Shared directory.
GD> - Create a new user account and login to it.
GD> - Try printing one with Preview just as a control.
GD> - Open the same one with Adobe Reader and try printing.

GD> If they fail to print with Adobe Reader, the problem is in the base
GD> installation of Adobe Reader. If they print properly, the problem is
GD> something wrong in the account preferences of your usual working
GD> account.

GD> -- 
GD> Godfrey
GD>   godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com




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