I have the R2880 Paul & I love it. I think you'll like it too. Cheers,
Christine
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From: "paul stenquist" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Epson R2400 Printer Failure
On Jun 14, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Adam Maas <[email protected]> wrote:
Godfey, with your print numbers, I'd strongly recommend doing a cost
comparison on the 3800 and 4880. When I did the math, between the 4800
and 2400 at list, the 4800 payed for itself around 300 prints in ink
costs alone. The 3800's better than the 2xx0 series in ink costs (80ml
carts rather than $15-ish 12ml carts), but 220ml ink carts for ~$100
each vs just under $70 for 80ml 3800 carts (the smaller 110ml carts
for the 48x0 are around $75). These are all at Canadian retail
pricing, but the ratio's will be similar even for discounted ink. At
900+ prints a year I suspect the 4880 will quickly pay for itself.
Atlex sells R3880 ink at $59.95 a tank and R2400 ink at $11.75 a tank.
When I did the cost analysis a couple of months ago, that means the
R3880's base cost of ink per ml was only about a 5% savings over the
R2400, and any additional savings is likely due to the fewer
change/clean cycles (each of which consumes another percentage of ink
from every cartridge). That's going to take a long time (a lot of
prints) to recover the additional cost of the printer based on the
cost of ink (about $500).
I haven't run numbers on the 3800 vs 4880. R4880 tanks are indeed much
much larger than the R2400, and quite a lot larger than the R3880. Of
course, I'll do the math when the time comes. The other factor will be
how much money I have to spend, of course. Ya gotta be able to make
the initial investment in the printer too, and have space for it and
supplies. The R4880 takes up a LOT more room than the R2400 or R3880.
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Godfrey
godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com
Hmm, I'm seeing somewhat different numbers, about 15-25% actually
based on those prices (3800 at 80ml for $59.99 is about $0.75/ml,
R2400 at 11.5ml is right around $1/ml, 13ml is at 0.90/ml, I've seen
both capacities quoted for the R2400 carts, some claim 15ml but I'm
pretty sure that's too high if the refillers can only get 13ml into a
cartridge)
Looking it up on Atlex, looks like the 110ml inks for the 4880 are
69.99 and the 220's are 112.99. That's a piss-poor price on the 220's
btw, essentially retail (They're $113.99CDN at Henry's here in Canada)
and good pricing for the 3800's. That's about $0.53/ml in the 220's.
Note I'm just doing the numbers here for anybody else who's interested
(like Paul)
As to space, the 4880's designed for use on a stand and connectivity
via ethernet so it's a lot easier to find a place for than the
deskridden smaller printers.
I'm going to go with the 2880 for a number of reasons. First, while i made
thousands of prints over the past four or five years, I'm printing less
these days but charging more for the prints I sell. (They go primarily to
the owners of cars I shoot for magazines, and I'm no longer shooting
weddings.). i also print fewer pics just for grins. I would guess that I'm
down to about 150 to 200 a year. Max. I don't think I want to print larger
than 13 x 19. Larger prints involve roll paper, dealing with curl and
other PiA factors. Finally, a number of web sources say that while the
2880 cartridges are slightly smaller than the 2400's, it's actually a bit
stingier on ink.
That means I have about ten unopened, current date R2400 ink cartridges to
sell. I'll let them go for $8 each plus shipping.
Paul
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