> >>
> >> When leadership is ultimately determined at the ballot box, the
> >> interests
> > of
> >> the ruling party will eventually and  inevitably come to reflect the
> > interest of
> >> the public -- even if there are temporary diversions from a logical
> > course. Of
> >> course there are the paranoid few at both fringes who believe that a
> >> conspiracy of some sort dictates all. For those, I have no answers
> >> other
> > than
> >> "take your meds."
> >> Paul
> >
> > that seems rather naïve coming from someone in advertising, Paul.
> > Power brokers in democracies put a lot of time and effort into
> > propaganda and hidden manipulation.
> >
> Not naive, realistic. If the leadership doesn't get results, it doesn't
survive
> long term. So far it's worked, both here and in your country.
> Paul
> 

the naivety is in the use of terms like 'eventually' and 'long term'. The
result of the manipulation that goes on can be seen in examples like the war
in Iraq. So although both the US and UK war leaders are now part of history,
in the short term their manipulations and lies caused 1000s of deaths and
who knows how many ruined lives. And they both won elections _after_ they'd
taken our countries into the war - all based on bare-faced lies. So saying
that we get rid of them in the long term is not much consolation, since the
damage they do is immediate. We need to be able to expose their lies and
manipulations immediately, not eventually.

Bob


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