Don't know if the lack of contrast you reference is so significant as to be 
obvious in casually examining prints, but I have noted, in what relatively few 
K-5 images I've viewed, contrast has appeared somewhat low and the image, of 
course, a bit "flat".(?)

Jack

--- On Sun, 11/7/10, Adam Maas <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Adam Maas <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 10:18 AM
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:46 PM,
> Boris Liberman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hmmm, so a camera with so many bits of RAW can do what
> then?  Discern
> > 2^so many shades, right?
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> > And the dynamic range is about when it goes
> > to saturation either to pure black and pure white.
> 
> Pure white and indistinguishable from noise (not pure
> black). The
> noise floor determines the actual dynamic range's low end.
> 
> > Ok, so tell me
> > then, the wise people of PDML, is there a way looking
> at the same
> > picture shot with K-7 and K-5 to  tell them apart? Or
> better yet, how
> > do I /see/ that one camera has wider DR than the other
> and that more
> > BPS in RAW are more beneficial than less BPS in RAW in
> real life. And
> > how all that translates to actual print?
> 
> The bit depth of the RAW files shows up in subtle
> gradations of colour
> and in shadow noise. You get more subtle colour/tone
> resolution and
> less shadow noise with a higher bit depth ADC than with
> less (the
> shadow noise improvement is due to exactly how ADC's work
> with linear
> imaging sensors, you lose luminance resolution at low
> luminance
> values. Digital delivers superb resolution of bright tones
> and poor
> resolution of dark tones). In the real world, shadow noise
> is the
> easiest to see, especially on a camera which can shoot in
> both 12 and
> 14 bit modes like many Nikons.
> 
> More dynamic range allows you to make less trade offs in
> exposure at
> shooting time. The more DR you have, the more you can hold
> detail in
> both the highlights and the shadows at the same time. The
> downside is
> the self-same image will be lower contrast when rendered
> and you
> usually have to make those trade offs in post instead.
> 
> 
> -Adam
> 
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