On Nov 20, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> Thanks all for your comments.
>> 
>> Ann, I did some pixel peeping on other photos in the set looking for 
>> evidence of tripod shake.  I think that one problem I'm having is accurately 
>> focusing the 20/1.8 in the dark. I suspect that infinity is not exactly 
>> infinity.
>> 
> That's true - and I'd have difficulty focusing in the dark for sure!... I 
> used to set the focus a bit shy of infinity whenever I couldn't see what
> I was doing...

I think that I may have tried that.

>> 
>> 
>> And, for those that are interested some more shots from the set:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625430541230/
>> 
> 
> well even though it is soft - I think this one is a lot more interesting than 
> your night with stars shot
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5193161970/in/set-72157625430541230/

That's one of the first ones I took. 
> 
> I think it is really difficult to get an intersting shot at night with 
> stars... they so often only look like bits of dust one needs to spot out
> on a print :-)

The primary interest of having the stars is that the shot looks like daylight 
so the stars give an interesting cognitive dissonance.

> 
> Not sure I'm much help here..

On the PDML has being of help ever been anything but secondary to puns and 
cormorants?

> 
> ann
> 
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>> On Nov 20, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
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>>> I was driving home from dancing in SF, and seeing the mist and clouds lit 
>>> by the moon over some water I was compelled to stop and take a few 
>>> pictures.  At one point when I was bracketing two cameras (K20 and Kx) two 
>>> lenses (16-50 & 20/1.8), several isos and exposures, my first thought was 
>>> that if I had a K-5 this would be so much easier because I'd at least know 
>>> which camera body to use.  Then I realized that for this shot I didn't need 
>>> a K-5, I needed a 645D. Then I realized what I really needed was Ralf's 
>>> nightscape skills.
>>> 
>>> Where my thoughts ended up, while waiting for the 30 second exposures, plus 
>>> the 30 second dark fields, is that what I'd really like to see is what Ralf 
>>> could do at night with a 645D, and that if Pentax were smart, they'd loan 
>>> Ralf a 645D for a few weeks, just to see what one could do for night time 
>>> landscapes.
>>> 
>>> I need to go to bed rather than going through all of my n-dimensional 
>>> bracketing from three different shooting locations, but after a quick scan, 
>>> this seems to be one of the more promising shots:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5191532097/
>>> 
>>> K20, ISO 400, 16-50 at 16mm f/2.8 30 second exposure.  Which matches my 
>>> previous experience that the sweet spot at night is a 30 second exposure 
>>> with the K20 at ISO 400.
>>> 
>>> For the Bay Area Folks, this is shot from the frontage road, just north of 
>>> Black Road (Bear Creek exit off Hwy 17).
>>> 
>>> If there's interest, I could post my full bracketing of one of the shots.  
>>> The last one I took ran into problems because the lens started fogging up.
>>> 
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