Believe I prefer the "softened focus." I've never hesitated to clone at will for any use including submission to the PPG. Drastic element manipulation would give me pause.
Jack --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Walter Gilbert <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 1:44 PM > I don't think they allow any > sort of cloning in the images, and only > minor filter effects -- and not being adept at cloning at > all, would > most likely make a complete hash of it anyway. :-) > > I've done up a couple of versions both resized to the > 600-pixel height > required for submission: > > Crop with plain focus: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244452247/ > > Crop with softened focus: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244451549/ > > Any thoughts? > > -- Walt > > > > > On 12/8/2010 3:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > Think I'd try cloning that dominant leaf/branch coming > in just below the ULC. Completely, if you find it readily > doable. If not, just send it. :) > > > > Jack > > > > --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> From: Walter Gilbert<[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite > >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"<[email protected]> > >> Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 1:19 PM > >> Oh, I agree that the butterfly > >> is the real strength of the image. I > >> was just being a bit facetious about the busy-ness > of the > >> background. > >> > >> In doing the crop, when I try to lop off a bit on > the > >> right, it seems to > >> have the unfortunate effect of accentuating the > fan leaf > >> that extends > >> down from the upper-left side, which looks pretty > >> distracting to me. > >> The biggest part of the problem is that it extends > so far > >> down into the > >> frame that it's tough to get around without > turning it into > >> an > >> overly-severe crop. > >> > >> Also, I'm hesitant to do much more with it as it > was among > >> my earlier > >> shots and I wasn't vigilant about keeping my > original > >> images back then. > >> So, unfortunately, that's the highest resolution > version > >> copy I have -- > >> 1600 pixels long-side. I hate to give up > much more > >> resolution than > >> that. At this point, I'm inclined to submit > it as-is, > >> and if it gets > >> rejected, do a little cropping and maybe do a > little > >> graduated softening > >> of focus around the edges to obscure that part of > the fan > >> leaf and see > >> if that'll give it a boost. > >> > >> Idunno ... what do you think? > >> > >> -- Walt > >> > >> > >> > >> On 12/8/2010 2:33 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > >>> Walt, I think the strength of the image is the > black > >> butterfly. > >>> I might do some cropping, especially on the > right > >> side. > >>> Jack > >>> > >>> --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert<[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>> From: Walter Gilbert<[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in > Respite > >>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"<[email protected]> > >>>> Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 12:28 > PM > >>>> Thanks, Jack. > >>>> > >>>> I think you hit upon why I was iffy on > that shot. > >>>> It's not so much the > >>>> lack of vividness, but the fact that the > butterfly > >> itself > >>>> is somewhat > >>>> bland in comparison to the mimosa > tree. Hmm > >> ... come > >>>> to think of it, > >>>> maybe I should have named it "Mimosa Tree > with a > >> Butterfly > >>>> on it". > >>>> > >>>> -- Walt > >>>> > >>>> On 12/8/2010 2:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > >>>>> The PPG offerings continue to include > an > >> extremely > >>>> large number of butterflies. Such a number > tends > >> to numb the > >>>> voter to the point of being difficult to > overcome, > >> thus > >>>> placing such images at somewhat of a > >> disadvantage.(?) > >>>>> This image, however, I feel is unique > enough > >> to have a > >>>> good chance at making it in. Even though > there it > >> rather > >>>> more going on in the background than it > would > >> really need, > >>>> I'd enter it. > >>>>> Jack<yes> > >>>>> > >>>>> --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter > Gilbert<[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> From: Walter Gilbert<[email protected]> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail > in > >> Respite > >>>>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail > List"<[email protected]> > >>>>>> Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, > 11:45 > >> AM > >>>>>> > Oops ... forgot > >> the deets: > >>>>>> K-x, Asahi Takumar 135/2.5, ISO > 200, > >> 1/320, > >>>> Aperture > >>>>>> priority, unknown aperture > setting. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 12/8/2010 1:38 PM, Walter > Gilbert > >> wrote: > >>>>>>> Hi > all, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Here's another butterfly shot > I'm > >> considering > >>>>>> submitting to the PPG and thought > I'd get > >> some > >>>> opinions on > >>>>>> beforehand. I'm just a tad > "iffy" on > >> it, as > >>>> it just > >>>>>> doesn't strike me as particularly > vivid > >> -- > >>>> something I'm > >>>>>> partial to in my butterfly > images. > >> Of > >>>> course, it's a > >>>>>> matter of taste -- which is why I > thought > >> I'd get > >>>> input from > >>>>>> the list. Anyway, here it > is: > >>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244166815/#/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Comments, critiques, > suggestions, and > >> gift > >>>>>> certificates from KEH eagerly > accepted. > >>>>>>> -- Walt > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, > please visit > >> the > >>>> link > >>>>>> directly above and follow the > directions. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit > the > >> link > >>>> directly above and follow the directions. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> [email protected] > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link > >> directly above and follow the directions. > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
