You really don't have to resort to insults. This isn't a big deal. But as I said, I shoot for magazines as well, and I don't have to provide releases. Some are Sunday supplement magazines that are published by newspapers, but others are newsstand/subscription automotive buff books.
In any case, I'm finished. Don't want you to hurt yourself over this. Paul On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Elizabeth Masoner wrote: > And as I've said repeatedly (hence the frustration as you are either > extremely dense or deliberately dodging those sentences just so you can > argue more), the courts have made numerous exceptions for newspapers. > Newspapers, not magazines. News stories fall under parts of the "fair use" > clauses and unless newspapers run afoul of civil suits due to defamation of > character they are basically exempt from model releases. > > > > > On 1/19/11 3:08 PM, "Paul Stenquist" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> But according to the copy you entered below, "any endeavor designed to create >> income," newspapers would be subject to this requirement as well. >> >> I shoot more for magazines than newspapers. I haven't had to secure model >> releases for those pubs either. It just doesn't happen very often in the real >> world. >> >> Paul >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Elizabeth Masoner wrote: >> >>> For the 50 billionth time Paul. In EVERYTHING I've said I have NEVER said >>> newspapers fall under this. >>> >>> >>> On 1/19/11 3:02 PM, "Paul Stenquist" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, if she's right every newspaper in the country and most of the >>>> magazines >>>> are in big trouble. >>>> Go put your fist through a wall. >>>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Elizabeth Masoner wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ok, I give up, I can’t stay out of the conversation (I don’t have anymore >>>>> wall space that would like good with a fist punched through it). If I >>>>> wait >>>>> longer to email again I won’t be polite so I’ll email now while I still >>>>> have >>>>> some reasonable control over my language. >>>>> >>>>> Just read this – it goes into the when/why/how more succinctly than >>>>> anything >>>>> any of us have typed so far. >>>>> http://www.andrewkantor.com/useful/Legal-Rights-of-Photographers.pdf >>>>> >>>>> With regards to commercial usage >>>>> >>>>> Commercial Rights >>>>> Commercial rights can be a very murky term when corporate lawyers get >>>>> involved. However, a general explanation would be that commercial means >>>>> any >>>>> endeavor designed to create income or use by a commercial entity. Some >>>>> examples would include: a sales brochure, magazine, advertisement, or >>>>> billboard. >>>>> >>>>> Non-Commercial Rights >>>>> Non-commercial rights would be items that are not designed to create >>>>> significant income or use by individuals or other non-corporate type >>>>> groups. >>>>> Things such as church bulletins, or someone printing an image to put on >>>>> their school binder would be non-commercial usage. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ~Liz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow >>>>> the directions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow >>> the directions. >> >> >> > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
