From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Sessoms <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Someone wants to play with post processing one of my photos.
>>>> ?They can't, however, read K-x .pef files in PS-3. I don't know
>>>> if PS-3 can even read a DNG file, but is there a way to tell LR,
>>>> or PS, to save a copy of this one raw file as .dng?
>>
>> Photoshop CS-3 or ...? All versions of Photoshop CSx with Camera Raw
>> v2.4 or greater installed can read .DNG files.
>>
>> Both Lightroom and Camera Raw (any version that can read your K-x
>> files) can export any .PEF file as a .DNG.
>
> I was running Photoshop7 when Adobe announced the free .DNG converter. PS7
> could read .DNG files, but I can't remember if I had to download a plug-in
> from Adobe to make it work.
>
> At the time I was shooting with the *ist-D and had selected TIFF as my file
> format. PS7 opened the TIFF files from the *ist-D with no complaint.
Sorry, John, but that's just not correct. Photoshop 7 was the first
version of Photoshop for which a Camera Raw plugin existed as a $100
add-on component. That optional plugin was Camera Raw v1.0.

Digital Negative support was added to the Camera Raw plugin at version
2.4, which required Photoshop CS (version 8). Photoshop CS shipped
including the Camera Raw v2.0 plug-in.

Take a look at the DNG "Timeline" on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Negative_(file_format) and the
Photoshop release history on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_release_history ...
You can see that the DNG specification wasn't even underway before
Photoshop CS was initially released.

Godfrey, I beg to differ. I have my own "timeline".

I had Photoshop 5 LE when I went to Iraq in 2004. It came with my Nikon CoolSCAN IV ED. That was my original plan for a digital workflow during the deployment; shoot film with the PZ-1p and scan the negatives.

I got the chance to buy the *ist-D about a week or so before shipping out. That worked out well because getting the film processed over there would have been a nightmare.

Photoshop 5 LE was not upgradable, so I purchased a copy of Photoshop 7 soon after I got settled in overseas. Photoshop CS had already been released, but my ThinkPad didn't meet minimum hardware requirements to run Photoshop CS.

I found a copy of Photoshop 7 that included the Camera Raw plug-in at a considerable discount through Amazon market. That copy of Photoshop 7 was what I used during the rest of my deployment.

As noted, I was not shooting RAW at the time because the *ist-D would produce TIFF files. That recommendation came from something Herbert Kepler wrote about the *ist-D in Popular Photography Magazine.

DNG was announced by Adobe in 2004 while I was in Iraq. I downloaded the free converter from Adobe while I was still in Iraq and tried it out. It was, after all, FREE.

It worked. The copy of Photoshop 7 I was using at the time could open the .DNG files from the free converter. I may have upgraded the Camera Raw plug-in for Photoshop 7 if an upgrade was offered as a free download from Adobe. I don't remember.

But, PS7 was only one version down-level in 2004 and Adobe *did* still provide limited support for it at the time.

Next time I go to Raleigh, I'll try to remember to get out my old ThinkPad and see if I can find version numbers. I may even have left some of the converted DNG files on it.

I purchased Photoshop CS in March 2005 before being released from active duty. I was concerned the copy of Photoshop 7 I received through Amazon market might be a bit dodgy.

I went ahead and "bit the bullet", paying the full retail, shrink wrap copy price to ensure I got a legitimate, upgradable, valid S/N copy while I still had the disposable income to afford it. Bought it at the old CompUSA store in Raleigh, NC.

CS was introduced in October 2003. CS2 was introduced April 2005. I got a "free" upgrade to CS2 from Adobe because CS2 was announced within 30 days of when I purchased my retail copy of CS.


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