I had all the versions of Photoshop from that time too, John. If PS 7 + Camera Raw 1.0 could open DNG files, that's news to me. It would be an undocumented feature ... not impossible, but undocumented as PS7+Camera Raw pre-dated the first DNG release.
I've sent a note to my friends at Adobe to ask about this. On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:57 PM, John Sessoms <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi >> >> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:06 AM, John Sessoms <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Someone wants to play with post processing one of my photos. >>>>>> >>>> ?They can't, however, read K-x .pef files in PS-3. I don't know >>>>>> >>>> if PS-3 can even read a DNG file, but is there a way to tell LR, >>>>>> >>>> or PS, to save a copy of this one raw file as .dng? >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> Photoshop CS-3 or ...? All versions of Photoshop CSx with Camera Raw >>>> >> v2.4 or greater installed can read .DNG files. >>>> >> >>>> >> Both Lightroom and Camera Raw (any version that can read your K-x >>>> >> files) can export any .PEF file as a .DNG. >>> >>> > >>> > I was running Photoshop7 when Adobe announced the free .DNG converter. >>> > PS7 >>> > could read .DNG files, but I can't remember if I had to download a >>> > plug-in >>> > from Adobe to make it work. >>> > >>> > At the time I was shooting with the *ist-D and had selected TIFF as my >>> > file >>> > format. PS7 opened the TIFF files from the *ist-D with no complaint. >> >> Sorry, John, but that's just not correct. Photoshop 7 was the first >> version of Photoshop for which a Camera Raw plugin existed as a $100 >> add-on component. That optional plugin was Camera Raw v1.0. >> >> Digital Negative support was added to the Camera Raw plugin at version >> 2.4, which required Photoshop CS (version 8). Photoshop CS shipped >> including the Camera Raw v2.0 plug-in. >> >> Take a look at the DNG "Timeline" on >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Negative_(file_format) and the >> Photoshop release history on >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_release_history ... >> You can see that the DNG specification wasn't even underway before >> Photoshop CS was initially released. > > Godfrey, I beg to differ. I have my own "timeline". > > I had Photoshop 5 LE when I went to Iraq in 2004. It came with my Nikon > CoolSCAN IV ED. That was my original plan for a digital workflow during the > deployment; shoot film with the PZ-1p and scan the negatives. > > I got the chance to buy the *ist-D about a week or so before shipping out. > That worked out well because getting the film processed over there would > have been a nightmare. > > Photoshop 5 LE was not upgradable, so I purchased a copy of Photoshop 7 soon > after I got settled in overseas. Photoshop CS had already been released, but > my ThinkPad didn't meet minimum hardware requirements to run Photoshop CS. > > I found a copy of Photoshop 7 that included the Camera Raw plug-in at a > considerable discount through Amazon market. That copy of Photoshop 7 was > what I used during the rest of my deployment. > > As noted, I was not shooting RAW at the time because the *ist-D would > produce TIFF files. That recommendation came from something Herbert Kepler > wrote about the *ist-D in Popular Photography Magazine. > > DNG was announced by Adobe in 2004 while I was in Iraq. I downloaded the > free converter from Adobe while I was still in Iraq and tried it out. It > was, after all, FREE. > > It worked. The copy of Photoshop 7 I was using at the time could open the > .DNG files from the free converter. I may have upgraded the Camera Raw > plug-in for Photoshop 7 if an upgrade was offered as a free download from > Adobe. I don't remember. > > But, PS7 was only one version down-level in 2004 and Adobe *did* still > provide limited support for it at the time. > > Next time I go to Raleigh, I'll try to remember to get out my old ThinkPad > and see if I can find version numbers. I may even have left some of the > converted DNG files on it. > > I purchased Photoshop CS in March 2005 before being released from active > duty. I was concerned the copy of Photoshop 7 I received through Amazon > market might be a bit dodgy. > > I went ahead and "bit the bullet", paying the full retail, shrink wrap copy > price to ensure I got a legitimate, upgradable, valid S/N copy while I still > had the disposable income to afford it. Bought it at the old CompUSA store > in Raleigh, NC. > > CS was introduced in October 2003. CS2 was introduced April 2005. I got a > "free" upgrade to CS2 from Adobe because CS2 was announced within 30 days of > when I purchased my retail copy of CS. > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3431 - Release Date: 02/08/11 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
