Mike,
GM did go bankrupt.
US tax laws structured how the funds were kept.
(Yes, we'll allow these tax breaks for your higher paid individuals,
but the money will be co-mingled with all other corporate assets.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:37 AM, mike wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 27/02/2011 17:28, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivan<[email protected]>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> And Frank,
>>> I want to tell you something that will make you happy.
>>> We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida.
>>> 4 people on their block were early retirees from General Motors.
>>> Their pension benefits were capped at $72K.
>>> (I know that's a lot, but it's a lot less than they were getting.)
>>> And the highest ranked among them has already sold and move back to
>>> Michigan.
>>> They were all drawing money from 'defered compensation plans',
>>> where GM held back some salary to pay them later at a lower tax rate.
>>> Guess what.  In bankruptcy, all those funds go to the creditors.
>>> It puts a 6 figure crimp in their lifestyles...
>>> Regards, Bob S.
>>
>> That doesn't make me particularly happy, Bob.  First of all, I'm sure
>> these people worked hard for their money, often working long hours,
>> weekends, with many business trips and lots of pressure.  I may not
>> agree that the work they did was for the betterment of all, but they
>> had every right to rely on agreements made with their company and to
>> pattern their life accordingly.
>>
>> The fact that due to GM making bad decisions they lost their pensions
>> or a portion thereof only means that creditors got that money - and
>> I'm sure that banks reaped most of that benefit.  I'd rather see the
>> money in the hands of an individual than a huge faceless corporation.
>>
>> I don't think there's anything happy about your story.
>
> Agreed.  If they had been in a union, it would hopefully not have allowed
> those funds to be kept in a place available to creditors.  Did GM actually
> go bankrupt?
>
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