Ecki, Then it's time to look to yourself. How much bigger is your energy footprint than your grandfather's was? Mine is surely much bigger. Regards, Bob S.
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:48 AM, eckinator <[email protected]> wrote: > Bob, there is a rule in IT operations that says "whenever someone > becomes indispensable [you must] fire them right away [before their > damage potential gets even greater]". if there are no good > alternatives to dangerous nuclear power plants, i.e. no safe nuclear > power plants, then the world will have to do without nuclear power > plants altogether or at least make an effort to do so. We can't just > keep building new ones and pretend we're aware of the risks (well > they're NOT risks but FACTS) and feverishly looking for a way out of > that technological dead end. Not to mention that Uranium is running > low so the price of nuclear energy is going to go up, not down. There > are alternatives and I'll prefer any of them no matter what other ill > effects they may harbour. and besides, the best alternative is to cut > down consumption. In Germany there are presently two nuclear plants > running exclusively to feed the goddamn STANDBY circuitry of home and > office electronics. I don't want to see the world go down the drain > because some fatass needs a FUCKING STANDBY LED on their bloody 42" > couch potato illumination!!! > > 2011/3/15 Bob Sullivan <[email protected]>: >> Ecki, >> It's not the learning from the thing, but the doing that's at fault. >> Nobody has found good alternatives... >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:06 AM, eckinator <[email protected]> wrote: >>> INES level is up to 6 from 4 now according to French ASN. Chernobyl >>> was 7. The situation is different in that Fukushima 1 (Daiichi) is not >>> graphite moderated so there can be no graphite fire but a steam >>> explosion isn't so bad either. All 6 blocks in varying degrees trouble >>> now, at least 200 tons of "spent"fuel rods in cooling basins outside >>> the containments, a broken containment in block 2, radiation levels >>> too high in the control room etc... One expert named Mycle Schneider >>> was quoted saying all being done now was "palliative". Oh, and two >>> block cooling failures in Fukushima 2 (Daini) yet to evolve. Tokai and >>> Onagawa look safe so far. Speaking of safe, French Sarkozy just >>> announced there will be no stop to French nuclear plans as French >>> reactors are (quote) ten times safer than those in Japan. Same from a >>> number of other countries or to a similar vein. Fukushima Daiichi was >>> built using a 60s GE design and hasn't been upgraded much since. So >>> much for lessons learned from Chernobyl. Not even the Wallmann valves >>> were redundant apparently. And Tepco was involved in a number of cover >>> up scandals including forged maintenance docs. >>> >>> It scares the living daylights out of me to think that noone seems to >>> learn a thing from this. No matter how safe you make a nuke plant, you >>> can never reach 100% and any failure of this order of magnitude will >>> have similar effects. And it will happen again. Probably still in my >>> lifetime. >>> >>> 2011/3/15 Boris Liberman <[email protected]>: >>>> On 3/15/2011 1:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A friend of mine who is a Nuclear Physicist, and lives in Los Alamos, >>>>> read and vetted the original post in this series, which has been >>>>> moved to the MIT Nuclear Science and Engineering website: >>>>> >>>>> http://mitnse.com/ >>>> >>>> Thanks, Larry. Bookmarked. >>>> >>>> Boris >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
