On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM, John Francis <[email protected]> wrote:

> The current Flickr/Yahoo terms & conditions have very specific rules
> pertaining to Yahoo Groups and to audio/video/images.  The original
> Flickr terms and conditions were a lot more like section (c) of the
> current ones, giving Flickr a perpetual irrevocable, sublicensable
> right to do what it liked with your intellectual property, including
> the creation of derived works for any purpose and on any medium.
>
> While the license looked as though it was just boilerplate written
> by lawyers to let Flickr create thumbnails, screenshots, etc.,
> that's not what it said.

OK, thanks, but was there any reason to believe that they crafted it
maliciously, instead of it being a CYA approach? You need to be able
to create derivative works to create thumbnails, etc. You may include
an "any medium" clause, because you're backing on magnetic, optical,
and stone-tablet media, and want to make sure you're covered when the
holographic storage arrays come out.

I don't disagree that it was probably overreaching, relative to their
actual needs, but I tend to attribute that to lawyers' CYA tendencies,
rather than jump to the conclusion that they're moving into the stock
photo business and keeping all the money. Mark Roberts had a good
recent blog post on this very topic.

In other words, it comes across to me as a misstep which they
subsequently remedied; I have trouble connecting it to the intensity
of reactions that some here have expressed.

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