On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Reply interspersed...
> 
> On 6/7/2011 09:47, Larry Colen wrote:
>> I was at a party Saturday and a friend, playing drums in the band,
>> asked if I could get some shots with his camera, rather than just
>> using mine.  A D200 with the 18-200 VR lens.
> 
> Am I right that this lens has slow 3.5-5.6 aperture? Am I also right to 
> understand that when you were shooting the light was rather dim?

Nope, a lot of it was outside during the day, I did play a bit with it and an 
SB800.

You can see the shots I got with the K-5 at:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150283098239673.374773.653299672&l=32fb14e269

> 
>> I haven't seen any of the photos yet, so I can't speak to the image
>> quality, but I can say that shooting with the D200 really made me
>> appreciate the ergonomics of my K5.
> 
> Habit is the second nature, as we say in Russian.

This is true, and I repeated that a lot of it was unfamiliarity with the 
camera, but it really made me appreciate, for example, being able to adjust the 
iso without taking my eye from the viewfinder, or for that matter, my left hand 
from the lens.  

I was talking to someone tonight about Nikons, and his gripe with the film era 
cameras, was basically the same as mine, the controls were all backwards from 
what I was used to.

> 
>> Some of my issues are undoubtably unfamiliarity, but while I gripe
>> about having to use two hands if I want to review photos on the K-5,
>> it seems as if half the controls on the D200 are out of reach of the
>> right thumb or forefinger. Changing mode, or ISO was a complicated
>> process, and if they have the equivalent of the Tav mode, I couldn't
>> find it.
> 
> A friend of mine has D200. After taking it to my hands few times I find it 
> reasonably familiar and in fact I can shoot with it.

I was certainly able to shoot with it. I've also spent a few minutes here and 
there with D700s.

When I was shopping for my first DSLR, I much preferred the D40 over the rebel.

> 
>> Focus with the 18-200 didn't seem to be any faster, if even as fast
>> as with the 16-50 on the K-5.
> 
> See my questions above.

It was in reasonable light, and since I was alternating between the Nikon and 
the Pentax, the lighting conditions didn't really affect my perception.

> 
>> It's probably just unfamiliarity, but I didn't see a button
>> conveniently marked as AF to disable AF once focus was locked.
> 
> If you keep pressing shutter button half-way, doesn't that do the trick?

For the first shot, but not the second or third.  I couldn't just lock on to 
someone and keep firing.  I'm sure that there's a way, it just didn't leap out 
at me. As it turns out, that is exactly what I did.


> 
>> And the shutter, while not as loud as the D700, was a far cry from
>> the whisper quiet snick of the K-5.
> 
> D200 was the first camera after plethora of 6MP cameras based on Sony sensor. 
> It was 2005 or 2006 somewhat before K10D. That certainly can explain few 
> things.

I'm sure it does. 

> 
>> I will say that I liked the feel of it in my hand.  It was noticeably
>> bigger than the K-5. I like that I can make my K-5 bigger with a grip
>> if I were to want to, but if space is at a premium, I can also make
>> the camera smaller, and easier to carry.
> 
> I dare you find Nikon F70 (film body) and familiarize yourself with it. Based 
> on my experience, all modern digital cameras are pedigree of ergonomics and 
> ease of use compared with this one...

I don't have an F70, just an F, EM, FE, FE2 and an N6006.

> 
> Boris
> 
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