But we all expect to sell our stuff for the same as he does. Do you take
credit cards, offer a repair warrenty, throw in a coulpe of rolls of film
and fresh batteries? Dealers provide a service, Why should I pay an
individuale the same as I would a dealer. So Joe's comments work on both
ends, buying and selling; That's just a matter of economics. Unless you are
a politician, of course <g>.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Need some advice about a trade..


> on 2/27/02 14:48, Alan Chan opined:
>
> >> Is trading in items at the Camera store (like the local Henry's shop) a
> >> good deal or a rip-off?
> >
> > Rip-off, definitely.
>
> Geeez, folks, I wish you wouldn't call trade-in transactions "rip-offs."
>
> I know the sinking feeling when your used equipment is evaluated for
> trade-in be a merchant, but you have to be realistic.
>
> The guy is in business for several reasons. He needs to make a profit on
the
> majority of his sales to pay his overhead, a not insignificant amount
these
> days, if you have a storefront. And he has to provide for his family,
> certainl;y for his own shelter and food. He may have employees that have
the
> same needs. Are the figures starting to add up in your head yet?
>
> He needs to pay for advertising. Invest money in stocking equipment, on
> which he probably pays inventory tax if it stays in his store for long.
And
> on and on...
>
> He's there to provide a service to your community's photographers. Would
> that community be better off without his services?
>
> Here's the general formula for a "trade-in."  Market value of the item
less
> 50%. That amount can be manipulated by the price of the item being
purchased
> (full list, discounted, or cost), but the bottom line has to be somewhere
> near the merchants profit margin goal. It is also influenced be the
> likelihood of the traded item reselling soon, how much it might cost to
put
> it into good working and presentable order, and the probable shelf life of
> the item you are buying (the longer either item sits on the shelf, the
less
> money he can make on it).
>
> All fudge factors considered, you have to weigh your need for the item
> purchased, the speed in which you can get it, the value of the merchant's
> availability in all other areas to you (processing, film, gadgets, special
> orders),  against the loss of value from your purchase price of the item
you
> want to trade. Look at the cost to you of the new item versus the user
value
> of your trade-in.
>
> Like the price of anything you buy, the transaction is an agreement of
value
> between the seller and buyer. The merchant is familiar with the math and
his
> costs. You can negotiate, and maybe concessions will be made on his part.
> But in the end, remember, he does not NEED your piece of equipment. He is
> charging you a fee to present it for sale (and in good working order) to
his
> other customers. They are looking for that special bargain price as well!
>
> So quit your whining and belly up to the counter. Don't lean on the glass!
>
>                         JoMac, Pentaxian
>            "Pentax, Quadraphonic, Betamax, Macintosh"
>
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