On 2011-07-22 14:10 , John Sessoms wrote:
From: steve harley
On 2011-07-22 10:46 , John Sessoms wrote:
> I've noticed that some characters in some names are represented as '?' when I
> receive list emails. I've tried changing my options to display international
> characters, but it's not working.
>
> Anyone have hints how I might do this?
the answer depends on your email client (or browser, for webmail), your OS and
what fonts you have installed ...



Email client is Mozilla Thunderbird 3.1.11 on Windoze XP.

i use the same Tbird on Mac OS X 10.5.8


Tools>Options>Display: Default font is Arial

Advanced options: Fonts for: Western
Proportional: Sans Serif
Serif: Times New Roman
Sans-serif: Arial
Monospace: Courier New

mine:
 Proportional: Sans Serif
 Serif: Myriad Pro
 Sans-serif: Bitstream Vera Sans
 Monospace: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono

on Mac OS X if a font doesn't contain a glyph, the system searches your other fonts for the glyph; i thought Windows had something similar, but i'm not sure if it is so in XP


Font Control: Allow messages to use other fonts & Use fixed width font for
plain text messages both checked.

same here

Character Encodings:
Outgoing Mail: Western (ISO-8859-1)
Incoming Mail: Unicode (UTF-16)

I already tried UTF-8, but I still get the '?' in place of European characters,
so I thought I'd try UTF-16 to get the larger character set. It's still giving
me the '?'.

i thought i had set outgoing to utf-8 but i now see ISO-8859-1 -- maybe a crash or update changed my setting; i have ignored the incoming setting, thinking it to only apply when no encoding is specified (and in such cases UTF-16 is unlikely to work well)

also note the menu: View > Character Encoding, particularly whether Auto-detect is on; i believe you can change these on the fly while viewing a message


What I'm NOT seeing are characters like the slashed capital 'O' in Scandinavian
names

i do see the correct character in Tim's emails in his From header; but header encoding is handled differently from the message body -- in this case the literal text of the From header contains an escape indicating it is UTF-8 encoded, even though his message body is encoded as us-ascii


& whatever character was in the middle of the discussion of variants of
McAllister that came out "M??r".

that latter was a pair of Unicode characters, a superscript c merged with "almost equals", but glyphs for these characters are missing from many fonts, and it implies a system that can handle Unicode combining characters; i have no idea if that works on XP


None of this is any world shaking problem, but I would like to fix it. It's
actually the little things that irritate me the most.

i suspect it's down to the font choice in Tbird and/or XP

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