Godfrey, I admire the effort you go through to introduce words such as
"construe" into this august forum.  Keep up the good work!  -T

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tim, I admire the effort you go through to construe using the system
> the way you desire. However, I'm more concerned with doing photography
> and averse to playing with my computer system, so I use the computer
> system the way I feel it was intended to be used and use Lightroom the
> same way. To do otherwise, to me, is a waste of time and energy for no
> good purpose.
>
> BTW, I don't organize my directories "the way Lightroom would." I
> utilize Lightroom to automate organizing my image files *the way I
> designed to have them organized* years before Lightroom existed. No
> UNIX command line machinations required.
>
> Note that there's nothing wrong with using command line system
> interfaces when they are the best way to get things done ... !!
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Tim Bray <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well, it's a complex subject.
>>
>> To GDG's points, I organize my pictures into directories the way I
>> want to, not the way Lightroom would.   Except for, I let Lightroom
>> keep all its catalog goo in Pictures/Lightroom. Also, like you, my
>> full repertoire won't fit on my laptop's tiny little SSD, so I carry
>> around an outboard drive, except for one directory "Current" on the
>> main disk where I keep the last two or three months' worth.
>>
>> Via the magic of symbolic links (more wizened-unix-geek voodoo) the
>> directory layout looks the same on both machines. So rsync does
>> exactly what I think most people would want, and the folder paths in
>> the database don't get bollixed up.
>>
>> Except for... Lightroom doesn't actually handle symbolic links that
>> well.  Despite the fact that the pictures look like they're in
>> Pictures/2011/2011-07/whatever, Lr notices that one of those steps is
>> a symbolic link to an external device and shows the folders as being
>> on another device, in Library view.  The consequence is that when I
>> rsync, Lightroom opens the catalog correctly and all the filtering
>> works, but if I want to open up a picture it says "oops, can't find
>> the picture".  But that turns out to be OK, because there's a "Find
>> pictures" thing and it takes about 2 clicks to say "There they are".
>> Arguably a bug in Lightroom, but no biggie.  And anyhow I'm nearly
>> always working on pictures in "Current", which is the same on both
>> machines so no problem at all.
>>
>> Anyhow, I guess my claim remains that there are quite a few situations
>> in which rsync works really well.  But as I said, really only suitable
>> for someone who's comfortable typing shell commands into a terminal
>> window -T
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> As far as I understand it, in broad strokes, Rick wants to "copy"/"sync" 
>>>> his
>>>> LR catalog from his workstation to his more portable laptop, do some work
>>>> there on the laptop, then "copy"/"sync" his work back to his workstation. 
>>>> He
>>>> expects any changes he made on the laptop to be 100% reflected on the
>>>> workstation.
>>>>
>>>> The rsync solution Tim describes should accomplish this. Plus it's *really*
>>>> fast.
>>>
>>> It's not that simple. The problem is that if you rsync (or ChronoSync)
>>> the catalog file from one machine to another, the folder paths in the
>>> database can be incorrect. Only if they are organized in such a way
>>> that the folder paths are a relative subdirectory of the catalog
>>> folder do they always work correctly.
>>>
>>> There are assumptions in Tim's document which are valid only if your
>>> Lightroom setup is only using the default organization of catalog
>>> folder and image file folders. I don't store either of them in the
>>> default locations ... there's no need to and it's safer not to.
>>>
>>> And then there's the notion that Rick wants to reorganize a subset of
>>> his catalog ... there might not be enough space on his laptop to hold
>>> the entire library. I have this issue myself: my laptop has a 500G
>>> disk in it, my working image file repository *alone* is 900G at this
>>> point, never mind OS, applications, other files, and necessary free
>>> space.
>>>
>>> Synchronization tools are very useful ... I use ChronoSync every day
>>> to maintain my archives ... but they do not do what is needed for
>>> Rick's project.
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