Shel was an interesting guy with a lot of photography experience. I shot with him here in Chicago and met him later in San Francisco when Lynn & I visited. I believe he suffered from serious bouts of depression. He offered to do a photo critique when we were starting the PESO or PAW postings. It was a cringe worthy experience, as brutal as any art critic I have ever read, and way 'over-the-top' for a friendly forum like the PDML. Part of the charm of the PDML is that we know one another. I expect a different level of photos from Bill Robb or Mark C. or Frank and can offer sharper criticism. With less experienced photographers, it isn't so much criticism as encouragement. Regards, Bob S.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:55 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com <knarftheria...@gmail.com> wrote: > You are absolutely right, Doug, Cory did coin (pun intended) the PESO. Shel > had earlier suggested the PAW (photo a week) an idea which I believe he got > from the Leica Users Group (LUG). > > Good ol' Shel. He rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way but I liked him a lot, > even though it was his nasty comment that was referred to much earlier in > this thread as going way beyond a critique, becoming a personal attack. I > think the whole affair led to his leaving the list. > > I should look him up one of these days, see how he's doing. > > cheers, > > frank > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Doug Brewer <d...@alphoto.com> > Sent: November 29, 2011 11/29/11 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> > Subject: Re: Promoting the PUG, and the list > > On 11/28/11 10:49 PM, Mark C wrote: >> / >> /I don't know what ever happened to him, but a grand PDML'er named Shel >> Belinkoff once posted that we all talk about photos but never actually >> share them and suggested that we post a picture every so often - and >> thus was born the PESO, GESO, etc tradition. His comment sparked a >> fantastic change to the list, back when. Shel used to also diss on >> nature photography, often commentating that the greatest technical skill >> that nature photographers achieved was using a long exposure to blur >> moving water. He used to piss me off but I miss him - does anyone knoe >> what he is up to these days? > > Pretty sure it was our Cory Waters that spawned PESO. Don't know what > happened to Shel, though. > >> >> As far as the PUG goes - it did arise in the days when it was hard to >> get your photos on line. I was the third (? I think) pugmeister back in >> the early 00's and it truly was a vehicle to help people get their work >> online. KomKon was enormously generous to give us bandwidth and a >> platform back then, then it was really not cheap to get your own website >> and public forums like flicker were still a glint in the internet's eye. > > I guess nobody read the foreword to the most recent PDML book. It > described the early days of the PUG accurately, if not factually. > > Best as I recall, it was, in PUGMeister chronological order: Me, Steve > G., Me, then you. > >> >> Mark C >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
