On 29 January 2012 13:00, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:36 PM, David Savage wrote:
>
>> On 29 January 2012 11:02, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I find a lot of my creativity in pushing the performance envelope of my
>>> gear. I find it a lot of fun to look for photos in situations where not long
>>> ago it would have been pretty much impossible to get any photos.
>>> To do this, I really need to know where the edges of that envelope are.
>>
>> If all you ever do is test the performance limits of your equipment,
>> you end up with nothing but test shots.
>
> This is true.  I don't think that all I ever do is push the envelope.  It has 
> been scarce more than a month since I went out on a photo walk, during the 
> afternoon, in lighting that allowed me to shoot a low ISO, in the f/8-16 
> range, and comfortably hand hold the photos without need of a tripod or even 
> a monopod.
>
> I also spend a fair amount of time pushing the envelope just for the 
> technical practice. For example when friends are playing at dive bars, so 
> that when I go specifically to take photos, I'm not pushing into uncharted 
> territory.  I know what the camera will do, how to make it do it, and I don't 
> have to interrupt my creativity by trying to devise solutions to new 
> technical problems.  Thursday night, I knew when I could use a flash, and 
> when it was better to use the meager available light so as not to disturb 
> people, and that I could push the camera to 12,800 at 1/10 Second and still 
> get something decent.  It was my practice pushing the envelope that allowed 
> me to just relax and be creative, even in challenging light.
>
> Then there's the case that some of my best photos come from just noodling 
> around when I'm experimenting with what the equipment will do. What happens 
> if I bounce the flash off the mirror?  What happens if I use a slow shutter 
> speed with the flash, and zoom the lens? What happens if rather than using 
> the 77/1.8 I photograph the musicians with the 200/2.8? What happens if I use 
> hi-lighter pens to draw on my model before photographing her in black light

That I can respect & appreciate.

>> I recommend focusing less on what the gear is capable of & more time
>> on creating interesting images.
>
> Interesting, because I find your night photos with the D700, where you were 
> pushing the abilities of the camera to be so inspirational, as a way of 
> creating interesting images.

But those night shots aren't a test of the equipments limitations.
They're a test of my ability to take a fun, & somewhat cliched genre
of photography, & try & put my spin on it (no pun intended)

I can tell you exactly how many test shots I took to test the D700's
night photography capabilities. One. As soon as I got a cable release
for it I set it up in the back yard pointed it at the sky and took a
23 minuet bulb exposure (I couldn't wait the extra 7 minuets)

Once I'd reviewed that test shot, I knew the camera would do what I
needed it to do. Every shot after that was just a confirmation.

>>> It's kind of like instrumentation in a car. Most people just need a
>>> speedometer, an odometer and a big red "motor meltdown light".  Oil
>>> pressure, temperature, tachometer etc. are completely superfluous.  When I'm
>>> racing, I use all of those, and often to more accuracy than
>>> "good/indifferent/bad".
>>
>> Using race car driving is a flawed analogy. Driving competitively is a
>> very technical skill. A lot of photography is an art.
>
> I suspect that anybody on this list who has driven competitively would agree 
> with me that, like photography, while it can be very technical, there is also 
> a great deal of art involved.  I find my mental state can be very similar 
> when doing a shoot as when driving on the track.  It's hard to explain how 
> for me, they can both fully occupy the intellectual, emotional and intuitive 
> centers of my brain.  Granted, the worry over blowing an exposure isn't 
> usually quite as visceral as the feeling that you may have just made a 
> mistake on the racetrack.
>
>>
>> You can learn the basics of how to drive a camera quite easily, I
>> know, I help teach people new to photography. After 6 hours most
>> people can shoot in Av, & some on full manual, after having always
>> shot on program mode.
>
> I've also taught dozens of, maybe a hundred or so, people the basics of 
> performance driving in a similar span of time.
>
>>
>> The hardest part is being creative. Focusing on the technical wont get
>> you that.
>
> I agree, but understanding the technical frees you to be creative without 
> having to use up most of your brain budget on figuring out how to get the 
> photo that you want to take.
>
> I'm certainly not claiming that what works for me works for everyone.  Hell, 
> for all I know, it may not work for me. I might be producing nothing but 
> boring, blurry, cliche' test photos in ridiculous lighting situations, but 
> I'm having fun doing it.

I believe focusing on the creative, the technical will work itself out
in time. We're all trying to get to the same point, just coming from
different directions.

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