On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, tom wrote:

> Of course, this is only a problem for those who are easily confused.

Ah, so that explains the misguided nature of your answer.  ;)

> If you want AF, motor drive or data imprinting, go with the 645n.

Or a fancy-pants 35mm.  If you want a MedF camera that offers the class
and styling of an elegant LX (and who doesn't?), get a 67 (in which I
include the 67II).  If you want the closest thing Pentax MedF has to an
MZ-S, get the 645NII.  If you want to get women, get the 67.

> If you want a macro lens that goes to 1:1, get the 645n.

If you want two different focal lengths of macro lenses to choose from
instead of just one, get a 67.

> If you want a ultra wide angle zoom (20-35 in 35mm terms), get the 645n.

If you want a fisheye lens (about 16 or 17mm in 35mm terms), get a 67.

> Like telephoto lenses? You're probably better off with a 645n.

If you want a lens with more telephoto than 360mm (the 35mm equivalent),
get the 67, where you have *three* lenses to choose from.

> If you want a pancake lens, get the 645n.

If you want a pancake lens, get the 35mm 40/2.8.  :)  If you want a camera
that can crush 645's and 35mm's, get a 67.  ;)

> Want a digital back? Your chances are better with a 645n II.

Want to be able to use your lenses on weenie little cameras like 35mm and
645's?  Get a 67.

> Regarding image size....6x4.5 is about the same area you get from a
> 6x6 neg when printing on 8x10. People don't generally complain that
> Hassie negs are too small. If they do, they get a 4x5, not a 6x7.

Not if they want to hand-hold it easily.  :)  The 67 is eminently
hand-holdable.  If you want a camera that is intuitive to use (think
K-1000 or LX), get the 67.  The 67II even offers aperture-priority.

> Both systems have their advantages. I think the 3 main issues are
> automation, feel, and neg size, though you might have issues that you
> feel are more important.

Agreed.

> I chose the 645 over the 67 because of system weight, flash sync and
> close focus ability. I also like the way the thing handles, and while
> the 67 is hand-holdable, the 645 is *very* hand-holdable. I do use the
> AF sometimes.

Automation: I chose the 67 because I don't really need full program or
shutter priority in a camera.  I'm happy with the metered manual operation
of the 67, and there's always the 67II if I decide I need aperture
priority.  I don't need autofocus in a MedF body, though if you do then
that makes the choice a lot easier.

Feel: I *love* the 67 in this respect.  It's designed like a large 35mm
body, so I find it very intuitive and comfortable.  Some people do like
the 645, so YMMV.

Negative size: Once you look at a 67 slide, there's no going back.  'Nuff
said.

> So, it depends on what you want. You really should find a place where
> you can handle both.

Agreed.  The 67 will then become a blindingly obvious choice.  :)

chris
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