Hey, I don't feel picked on. We're just having a discussion is all. ;-)
Okay, first of all I'm just not very good at artspeak; I'm generally not able to articulate why something is good or not-so-good. I mostly just know what I like and don't like. Of that set you linked us to the first photo is brilliant. Yes, the people are far away and small and we can't really tell what they're doing, but somehow their placement in the frame "just works" and they add an incredible tension to the piece that lifts it far beyond what it would be if they weren't there. Not to pick on Larry (but since you raised the comparison <g>) but I just didn't get that tension or any other feeling from the people in his photos. All that being said there were some of Shore's photos in that set that really didn't do much for me, awards and accolades or not. However, the photo of the child in Yucutan was amazing! And if anyone on this list could consistently produce work like this: http://www.masters-of-photography.com/S/shore/shore_presidio_full.html then yes, they should be sending their work off to Steichen. That is one of the best photos I've seen. Period. Small person and all... ;-) cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker <[email protected]> Sent: April 6, 2012 4/6/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Is it street photography, if there is no street? Certainly not to pick on you Frank, but with your words in mind have a look at the work of this celebrated photog, Stephen Shore, who has won more accolades and awards than the entire PDML population stacked end-to-end ... http://www.masters-of-photography.com/S/shore/shore_yosemite_full.html A scattering of random people, too far away to connect with etc. So what's the big deal? Or is Larry in fact the second coming of SS? Should he send his work to Steichen for purchase? BTW: Stephen Shore once browsed Flickr and declared it all shit. So that about wraps it up I guess. Good thing I've got some stuff over at 500px. ;-) http://2point8.whileseated.org/2006/12/12/stephen-shore-on-certainty-and-shit/ On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:10 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, it's not street photography 'cause there's no pavement, concrete, > buildings, the sort of things that differentiate streets from, say, beaches. > > ;-) > > These are really nice beach and ocean photos, but I don't feel that the > people in the shots add much. They don't seem to be doing anything of great > interest, we're not close enough to get any of their personality and as > compositional elements, well, to me the pictures would be just as effective > without them. > > But hey, that's just me, what do I know? > > ;-) > > cheers, > frank > > > "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- > Christopher Hitchens > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Larry Colen <[email protected]> > Sent: April 1, 2012 4/1/12 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Is it street photography, if there is no street? > > There are worse things than having an hour to kill, when you're two blocks > from the beach, at sunset. > > I found myself taking two types of pictures, and so I split it into two sets. > In these I was practicing my "street photography", trying to capture people > at the decisive moment, sometimes shooting from the waist. As such, this set > may not be as technically strong as it might be, and the composition might be > somewhere between ad hoc and random. Even so, I find these pictures rather > fun, in a frivolous way: > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629713831141/ > > There are several shots in here with a group of college age kids, 153-154 and > 230-232. Shortly after shooting 154, I noticed one of them had a camera and > got to chatting with them. One of the girls told me her name was Cassandra, > to which I immediately replied "I don't believe you". The poor girl was > totally confused and had no idea what I was talking about. > -- > Larry Colen [email protected] sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
