oo, I like that Presidio too, Ann. That's nice.  Cheers, Christine

On Apr 7, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Frank
> I love that shot, too
> and I quite like Stephen Shore - always have. Not crazy about the
> lanscape ones, however. the presideo shot you link down there is wonderful 
> and I've been to Presidio - tiny town in texas on Rio Grande
> 
> He gets the essence of a place very often.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 4/6/2012 19:45, [email protected] wrote:
>> Hey, I don't feel picked on. We're just having a discussion is all.
>> 
>> ;-)
>> 
>> Okay, first of all I'm just not very good at artspeak; I'm generally not 
>> able to articulate why something is good or not-so-good. I mostly just know 
>> what I like and don't like.
>> 
>> Of that set you linked us to the first photo is brilliant. Yes, the people 
>> are far away and small and we can't really tell what they're doing, but 
>> somehow their placement in the frame "just works" and they add an incredible 
>> tension to the piece that lifts it far beyond what it would be if they 
>> weren't there.
>> 
>> Not to pick on Larry (but since you raised the comparison<g>) but I just 
>> didn't get that tension or any other feeling from the people in his photos.
>> 
>> All that being said there were some of Shore's photos in that set that 
>> really didn't do much for me, awards and accolades or not. However, the 
>> photo of the child in Yucutan was amazing!
>> 
>> And if anyone on this list could consistently produce work like this:
>> 
>>  http://www.masters-of-photography.com/S/shore/shore_presidio_full.html
>> 
>> then yes, they should be sending their work off to Steichen. That is one of 
>> the best photos I've seen. Period. Small person and all...
>> 
>> ;-)
>> 
>> cheers,
>> frank
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
>> Christopher Hitchens
>> 
>> --- Original Message ---
>> 
>> From: Bruce Walker<[email protected]>
>> Sent: April 6, 2012 4/6/12
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"<[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Is it street photography, if there is no street?
>> 
>> Certainly not to pick on you Frank, but with your words in mind have a
>> look at the work of this celebrated photog, Stephen Shore, who has won
>> more accolades and awards than the entire PDML population stacked
>> end-to-end ...
>> 
>> http://www.masters-of-photography.com/S/shore/shore_yosemite_full.html
>> 
>> A scattering of random people, too far away to connect with etc.
>> 
>> So what's the big deal? Or is Larry in fact the second coming of SS?
>> Should he send his work to Steichen for purchase?
>> 
>> BTW: Stephen Shore once browsed Flickr and declared it all shit. So
>> that about wraps it up I guess. Good thing I've got some stuff over at
>> 500px. ;-)
>> 
>> http://2point8.whileseated.org/2006/12/12/stephen-shore-on-certainty-and-shit/
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:10 AM, [email protected]
>> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> Well, it's not street photography 'cause there's no pavement, concrete, 
>>> buildings, the sort of things that differentiate streets from, say, beaches.
>>> 
>>> ;-)
>>> 
>>> These are really nice beach and ocean photos, but I don't feel that the 
>>> people in the shots add much. They don't seem to be doing anything of great 
>>> interest, we're not close enough to get any of their personality and as 
>>> compositional elements, well, to me the pictures would be just as effective 
>>> without them.
>>> 
>>> But hey, that's just me, what do I know?
>>> 
>>> ;-)
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> frank
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
>>> Christopher Hitchens
>>> 
>>> --- Original Message ---
>>> 
>>> From: Larry Colen<[email protected]>
>>> Sent: April 1, 2012 4/1/12
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"<[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Is it street photography, if there is no street?
>>> 
>>> There are worse things than having an hour to kill, when you're two blocks 
>>> from the beach, at sunset.
>>> 
>>> I found myself taking two types of pictures, and so I split it into two 
>>> sets.  In these I was practicing my "street photography", trying to capture 
>>> people at the decisive moment, sometimes shooting from the waist. As such, 
>>> this set may not be as technically strong as it might be, and the 
>>> composition might be somewhere between ad hoc and random.  Even so, I find 
>>> these pictures rather fun, in a frivolous way:
>>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629713831141/
>>> 
>>> There are several shots in here with a group of college age kids, 153-154 
>>> and 230-232.  Shortly after shooting 154, I noticed one of them had a 
>>> camera and got to chatting with them.  One of the girls told me her name 
>>> was Cassandra, to which I immediately replied "I don't believe you". The 
>>> poor girl was totally confused and had no idea what I was talking about.
>>> --
>>> Larry Colen [email protected] sent from i4est
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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