Where did I make him out to be a bad guy? I spoke to him one of the times I was 
at GFM and he is a very personable, pleasant fellow. 

He's a very good photographer who has come up with or adapted an idea and uses 
it along with his other tools to take very unique and beautiful photos.

I have a problem with those who think he cheats or breaks or bends the rules; 
he does no such thing. 

My personal preference is to take nature photos completely in their natural 
surroundings, as found. He brings a mini-studio and enhances his subjects 
before shooting them.

Nothing wrong or unethical about that.

I am still puzzled what I said that makes you think I think he's a "bad guy"?

cheers,
frank 



"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Bob Sullivan <[email protected]>
Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?

Frank,
I believe that I talked to Charles at GFM this year.
He's not really the bad guy you make him out to be.
He did post an 'over the top' drops photo that won a prize,
but freely shared all his tricks the next year.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:22 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, I did actually ask the young lady if I could take a photo of her book, 
> coffee and muffin. That's more than I usually do...
>
> My reference with the backdrop and glycerin was (as some no doubt recognized) 
> a reference to a certain Mr. Brazwell (sp?), a perennial winner in the Nature 
> Photography Contest ay GFM. Brought along a little collapsing frame and 
> velvet backdrops of various colours, sprayed glycerine on flowers and leaves 
> for the "just after a rainfall" look and away he went; won every year. Shot 
> with Pentax for a while iirc. Was on this list for a while (may still lurk 
> for all I know).
>
> Lots of jealous people thought it was against the rules but it clearly wasn't.
>
> And it looked very good. He was very good at it - and I guess he still is. 
> Probably still goes to GFM (sadly I don't). Probably still wins. Mark? Doug? 
> Anyone else at GFM? Charles still around?
>
> So your scrim story reminded me of him.
>
> Easy to do in a forest, not so much in an urban setting.
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Bruce Walker <[email protected]>
> Sent: September 26, 2012 9/26/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
>
> My tongue was very firmly in my cheek when I suggested a lighting mod,
> Frank. But you knew that didn't you? :-)
>
> I had a crazy mental image of a woman settling in with her coffee and
> muffin when she's suddenly surrounded by technicians. Two guys are
> erecting a portable 4x8 foot scrim, one is spraying her food with
> glycerine. A makeup artist and hairstylist pounce and transform her.
> Finally Frank leans in, shoots a few frames, smiles at the woman and
> exits along with the assistants. Woman absently bites her muffin,
> grimaces and spits it out. Fade.
>
> Hey if Bruce Gilden can spring up and flash people in NY, why not?
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:04 PM, [email protected]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Not going to comment on the scrim. I takes my photos as I find 'em. 
>> Collapsible  scrims? What's next:  velvet backdrops and spray bottles of 
>> glycerin?
>>
>> Sheesh!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Okay, on the gustatory issue: Please be aware that those are not my coffee 
>> or muffin. They belong to the hands of the lovely young lady at the next 
>> table.
>>
>> For me, generally speaking, espresso is a stand-alone beverage. No need for 
>> cake, cookies, pastry or sweets.
>> Like you I will have baked goods or pastry with a regular coffee. Not the 
>> chocolate chip muffin in the photo, however; it's not vegan.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Thanks for the comment and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
>> Christopher Hitchens
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>> From: Bruce Walker <[email protected]>
>> Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Life's Greatest Pleasures?
>>
>> Ditto what Peter says. I do like the shot though.
>>
>> Next time you go there, Frank, take a collapsible scrim with you to
>> control the glare and let you raise the exposure so we can see the
>> muffin properly. I'll come with you if you need an assistant. Mmmmmmm,
>> chocolate.
>>
>> On a more technical note: don't you find that pairing a muffin with an
>> espresso means that you run out of liquid long before you finish the
>> muffin? It's usually three or four sips or one quick swallow and that
>> espresso is done.
>>
>> I'd rather have a cup of coffee with that chocolate muffin. With an
>> espresso, it should be a biscotti, I think.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:59 PM, P. J. Alling
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I assume that's chocolate, which is undeniably one of life's great
>>> pleasures.  However while the glare off the table can be forgiven, the
>>> blacks are too blocked to convey an inviting texture to the pastry and the
>>> coffee cup needs a bit more separation from it's shadow/reflection in the
>>> saucer . Aside from that the composition is quite pleasing.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/24/2012 9:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I suppose there could be a huge debate on what life's greatest pleasures
>>>> really are but a good book, a muffin and an espresso would be a
>>>> consideration for me:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lifes-greatest-pleasures.html?m=1
>>>>
>>>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "What can be asserted without proof 
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