> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of AlunFoto -
> Jostein Øksne
> 
> In my humble opinion it is not a good idea in the long run to use
> descriptive terms like "family album" in folder names. That's what
> keywords are for in the first place. I think it better to use the
> folder names to establish chronology only.
> Hierarchical keywords is a blessing. :-) Jostein
> 

I agree with you, expect that I'm not convinced that hierarchical keywords
are a blessing. They suffer from the same problem as any other hierarchy. 

For example, suppose in 2011 you went on holiday to Sandy Bay, Gibraltar and
labelled your photos with the keyword "Sandy Bay", which you placed beneath
"Gibraltar" in your hierarchy. This seems like a reasonable thing to do.

But next year you go on holiday to Sandy Bay, Jamaica, and the year after
that to Sandy Bay, Devon.

You now have 3 different places all called Sandy Bay, each of them belongs
in a different hierarchy. What should you do about it?

This is in some ways even worse than the hierarchical folder structure. With
the folder structure the hierarchy is, in essence, part of the name:
pictures.holidays.jamaica.sandy bay, *.gibraltar.sandy bay,
*.england.devon.sandy bay. But not so with LR keywords!

Of course, pictures.holidays.jamaica, pictures.holidays.gibraltar and so on
are not strictly hierarchies since the relation which links the levels is
not the same all the way up, but in the real world this is the way people
tend to label things, even Boris, who's an IT person and should know better,
and in any case even with a true hierarchy the problem still exists.

B

> Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >Chiming in with a bit (*) of delay...
> >
> >I see there were a storage strategy discussion here. I should point
> out
> >
> >the obvious - there is no reason of not using very helpful features of
> >LR such as keywords and there is no sense in overdoing it either.
> >Namely, if you try to come up with all possible keywords for each
> >photo, chances are you won't be consistent from day to day or from
> >month to month and hence the outcome will be a mess.
> >
> >Here is a suggestion for you.
> >
> >I have two hierarchies. One is on disk file system like so:
> >
> >\<basic category>\<sub category>\<date-time based sub-structure>. Real
> >life examples:
> >
> >* \Family Album\2010\2010-08 - and therein are all photos that I've
> >taken on that month of that year where family members can be seen.
> >* \Travel\Jerusalem\2012\2012-03-10 - probably self-explanatory
> already
> >* \International Travel\Rachel Sullivan in Israel\Galia\2011-05-10 - I
> >have decided that the guests from abroad equal us going there but I
> may
> >
> >split \International Travel to \International Travel and
> \International
> >
> >Guests. Here we have photos made by Galia on a given date when Rachel
> >came for a visit.
> >
> >Anyway, the classification is basic and always ends with date-time
> >based sub-structure so that given a date, I can quite easily find what
> >I need.
> >Additionally, LR has wonderful feature where you can browse your
> >collection by virtually any data item that your photos have - date,
> >time, aperture, camera, lens, rating, flag status - you name it, LR
> has
> >it.
> >
> >Obviously there are photos that answer more than one criteria - e.g.
> my
> >
> >girls while traveling abroad. Here come keywords. 99% of my keywords
> >denote persons and places. The remaining 1% is wherever photos were
> >uploaded, given to someone or chosen for publication. I organize my
> >keywords in tree-like structure (it is really very easy, you either
> >drag and drop or indicate the upper level keyword, when you create a
> >new one
> >
> >(**) ).
> >
> >Unfortunately I started with that system having shot several tens of
> >thousands photos hence I still have a good chunk of assigning keywords
> >to do.
> >
> >Still, I am offering this as a possible answer to your question, Walt.
> >Hope it helps.
> >
> >(*) I think it is more like 128 bit of delay... :-)
> >(**) Whenever I create a new keyword, I immediately go to the
> "Keywords
> >
> >List" screen (on the right hand side in Gallery module) and find a
> >proper way in the keyword tree for the new keyword.
> >
> >On 9/26/2012 12:38 AM, Walt wrote:
> >> Hi all!
> >>
> >> Finally, after years of using Picasa, IrfanView and a few Photoshop
> >> plugins, I finally decided to break down and get some decent image
> >> editing software for my new setup. It's definitely going to take a
> >while
> >> to get comfortable with it. I've checked out a few of the tutorial
> >> videos at the Adobe website, which were reasonably helpful, and
> >wonder
> >> if anyone can suggest some others that would be worth taking a look
> >at.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions, tips, and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> -- Walt
> >>
> 
> --
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> 
> --
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Reply via email to