Appreciated, Ann. I also save in Gray Scale. A calibration thing I suppose.(?) Am using Epson Ultra Premium Luster. I may ask my wife if I'm allowed to buy a B&W dedicated EPSON R3000. :-(
Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Sanfedele <[email protected]> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> Cc: Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Printing B&W When I do Black and white on the Epson v500 I have made a file that is in _saved in grayscale_... seems to me that problems with color cast I've had were a combination of the type of paper I was printing on and the profile. get absolutely black and white prints if I print on epson matte paper. I think I did pretty well with the high gloss Ilford that is akin to the nice metallic paper hi guys :-) ann - just hopped in for a few mins On 4/1/2013 21:28, Jack Davis wrote: > Thanks again, Paul. > > Jack > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > Cc: > Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:51 PM > Subject: Re: Printing B&W > > I used to be able to get decent BW prints with an Epson 1200, which doesn't > have multiple blacks. It's much easier with one of the newer multi-black > printers like the 3000 or the 2880, but you should be able to get acceptable > BW results with the 1800. > > You don't need or want access to the color controls in the printing > program.Turn off all color controls and adjust color in PhotoShop. Select > "let photoshop control colors" in your printing setup box. Use the Epson icc > profile for the premium luster paper. It's very accurate. Render your photo > as a grayscale image in PhotoShop, then convert it to whatever your PhotoShop > color space is set to. Prophoto RGB or Adobe 98 RGB for example. If your > monitor calibration is accurate, the image in an RGB odor space should remain > BW with no color tint. Then print with photoshop controlling the color. You > may get a slight color case, but you should be pretty close to pure BW. > On Apr 1, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Jack Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Paul. When I chose "Photoshop controls color" I no longer have >> access to color controls in the printing program. I'm absolutely satisfied >> that the image to be printed is B&W. >> I have a pro editor acquaintance to question on such things and he says he >> does two things when it comes to printing B&W. 1) Clean printer heads. 2) >> Turn off all color controls. This person is now retired and working out of >> his home. I understand he makes house calls. I have his business card and am >> about ready to give him a call. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Jack >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 3:25 PM >> Subject: Re: Printing B&W >> >> Good results are very difficult to achieve when the printer controls the >> color. Change your setup to Photoshop controls color and turn off all >> printer color control. You can find instructions for printing workflow >> management on the web. >> >> Paul >> On Apr 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Jack Davis <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate >>>having sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 >>>hours. Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times with >>>meals, toilet and accompanying my wife in her travels to uninteresting >>>places. >>> I have proof of past B&W successes which only serves to make me >>>doubt myself rather than the printer. The printer is an Epson Stylus PHOTO >>>R1800 (remember those?) which I bought new about a dozen years ago. >>> The only "calibrating" I've ever done to the system is a fairly >>>regular session with Huey whenever I begin to see ghostly shadows bordering >>>images. >>> I've given control to the printer and then turned down the >>>available colors (only includes magenta, yellow and cyan) to a limit of >>>minus 25. Get a grape blue. If I select "no color control" or "photoshop >>>elements manages color" it's a shade of magenta. >>> I don't do a lot of printing any more, but seems it's a B&W when I do. >>> Color hasn't been a problem. >>> I've made several trips to my favorite lab in Sacramento in recent years, >>> always to get a B&W done that I'm pressed to supply. I, also, do that when >>> I need a print larger than 13"x 19." >>> I've figured out that a new printer would solve my problem, but >>>I'd likely not be around long enough to use it up. >>> If you're familiar with the printer and have any thoughts that >>>may help, please pass them along. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

